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Steal_Your_Heart
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takimariee
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courts have the responsibility to create racially balanced schools

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Started: 5/21/2013 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Steal_Your_Heart

Pro

in 1974, courts have ordered a busing solution that was the only way that Boston public schools could be desegregated. everything was segregated at the time. neighborhoods were segregated by race,kids went to neighborhood schools which were segregated and Boston built new schools but those schools ended up still being segregated.
takimariee

Con

Negitive Assertion #1 Race should not be used as a basis for school assignment.
eveidence #1 desegrigation does not speak to drop out rates.
eveidence #2 the natunal center for education statistics reported that the average white kids attend 80% and 70% black kids.
eveidence #3 in all 17 states were seperated by race were required by law and matter of culture.
Negitive assertion#2 students and society benifits when more children are able to attend racilly integrigated schools.
Eveidence #1 the students in the sixth grade may not take the servy seriously
eveidence #2 no one is sure if this is only for black kids and lations.
Eveidence #3 self-esteem could be from somthing other than diversity.
Negitive assertion #1 to create a desegrigation school system, a judge shouldnt be able to tell to tell parents were their children must attend school.
Eveidence #1 the mayor thinks the new plan will create quality and equality in schools
Debate Round No. 1
Steal_Your_Heart

Pro

questions for negative assertion.....
1. why do you think judges shouldn't tell parents were their kids can go to school? what if it was a good school academically and physically and actually benefits the child?
2. how doesn't desegregation not speak to drop out rates? its proven that more white and African American kids drop out of school when their placed in the same schools. white parents demanded for their child to stay home because of the fact "Black kids" were attending their schools and African American didn't want their kids to go to school because they feared for their children's safety.
3.who said the surveys weren't gonna be taken serious? who said the survey was for segregated people?
takimariee

Con

Question #1 why do underage inocent children be viewed as a race or skin color?
Question # 2 what does skin color have to do with a childs level of education and right to learn ?
Question #3 what gives the courts the right to demand parents to send their child to a particular school if this is a "free country"?
Debate Round No. 2
Steal_Your_Heart

Pro

Answer#1: underaged innocent children are viewed by their race or color skin because thats just the way life was and the way the cookie crumbles. its not like the courts have dicided to bring the little black kids in it because of their color. the courts was just following their orders that the people in charge was demading and the people in charge in this case is the white parents and white people that hate black people ever since slavery days.
Answer#2: i dont actually get how their color have to do with a childs level of education and right to learn because their still going to school and learning things that needs to be learned in life. the only thing that went wrong was that they didnt have any school materials and i agree that the courts should have given the schools a little more money for materials and stuff but i still dont think anything was wrong with their level of education and right to learn.
Answer#3: the courts have the rights to demand parents to send their children to a particular school just like they have the right to take your child from you if their being miss treated and just like they have the right to send you to court or throw you in jail. the court doesnt care about "free counrty" nonsense! they just do what needs to get done and thats that!
takimariee

Con

Answers to your question
Q#1 it doesnt matter the value of the school its the principle of the judge choosing for the child, the parent has the right to decicide whats best for their child not the judge. the judge's job is to judge and state a opinion not to demand and make choices for others based on how they feel.

Q#2 its not necessarily just the desegrication that leads to drop outs. there are many other reasons why children drop out of school like there are today. Yes, race is a factor but not the only one. Also if the white parents decide to keep their children home , that is for the government to enforce not a judge. the judge has no athority over that.

Q#3 odds are that most younger students will not take the surveys seriously, the surveys are just another way to get the students in between the issue and stress the YOUNGER students out. The survey was only given to the segrigated children.
Debate Round No. 3
Steal_Your_Heart

Pro

1: if it doesn't matter of the value of the school then why are they complaining about the schools.

#2: the biggest reason why kids did drop out was because of the desegregation and that was back them, now doesn't really matter on this topic.

#3: if they only gave the segregated children the survey, wasn't the younger kids segregated as well? so your facts really doesn't add up.
takimariee

Con

takimariee forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by jgeller 3 years ago
jgeller
Yaritza
Conduct: 4
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Spelling and grammar: 2 Some places are hard to understand; this took away from the power of your argument, that I could tell you are passionate about, just not quite clear
Analysis: 3

Yaritza, it is hard to remember that you weren"t part of the class from the beginning. You did a great job adjusting and becoming an important part of the class.

Taki
Conduct: 4
Sources: 4
Arguments: 3
Spelling and grammar: 2 Some places are hard to read/understand; probably if you were saying it, I would understand, but in this case you need to communicate clearly in writing because you have lots of good ideas.
Analysis: 3

Taki. What can I say? You keep me on my toes, and I will always appreciate that. I"m so glad I got to know you this year.
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