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coolmikeb
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AKOONAMATATA
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did the chiken come before the egg???

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Started: 6/5/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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coolmikeb

Pro

I say that the chicken has came before the egg consuming to that in the Bible, god says that he made animals, not eggs. Every animal was already living and already birthed. This is why I think that the chicken came before the egg. Also, It says in the bible that Adam took care of the animals that god created, and Adam lived with them and he lived like the animals and with them
AKOONAMATATA

Con

  • The answer is the egg! For an animal to change, its genetics would have to change also and this is impossible. Therefore the change would have to take place as an embryo or egg. So the first chicken was most likely spawned in prehistoric times as an embryo/egg. Concluding that the first living organism had to come from the form of an egg or embryo.
  • The egg would have come first laid from another animal when it was hatched it was that animal but had to move its habitat so it had to adjust and became the chicken.
  • Theoretically, the egg must come first. A chicken is conceived and born in an egg; therefore, without the egg the chicken could not have been either conceived or born, it may be that the egg was the product of two different species accidentally mating to conceive the egg that contained the first, "chicken" as we know it. The egg came first, think about it logically, instead of trying to question it, there is no other logical/practical conclusion.
  • The egg came first. Two animals who really liked each other and were not the same breed, mated and the female laid an egg and it came out a chicken. They didn't know what to call it so they just named it chicken. Therefore the chicken is a crossbreed. I don't know what between though.
  • The egg came first. Dinosaurs laid eggs for millions of years before chickens were present on Earth.
  • The egg came first because other animals came before the chicken that had eggs of some kind. One kind are the fish in the seas; fish lay eggs. Another are snakes; snakes also lay eggs.
  • A chicken could not have its genetic material altered during life, so the egg must have evolved and been first.


Debate Round No. 1
coolmikeb

Pro

who took care of the egg?? dont you think some prehistoric animal would eat the egg. Who feed it when it was born. Adam in the bible could thake care of all the lliving animals and to say in the bible god made a 2 of everything. So god made both a girl and boy chicken in which they could stay alive and then came the egg
AKOONAMATATA

Con




I m very thankful for my opponent for his quote.


see gentlemen, I m not getting your point of debate on which topic are you argumentative whether its on chicken or Adam
Debate Round No. 2
coolmikeb

Pro

From what I have wrote form, clearly I should state my beliefs in why the chicken came before the egg. So therefore I talked about Adam and how the chicken came to be.
AKOONAMATATA

Con

If you take into account the doctrine of evolution, the egg's coming first becomes plausible on the cellular level under perfect circumstances (abundant food and resources). There will be an asexual reproduction once the environment becomes unfavorable. The species would then evolve, and a lot of animals have no parental instincts but through evolution some have started to look after their young.
An asexual reproduction is reproduction in which there is no fusion of male and female sex cells gametes.
The egg came first because the chicken descended from a dinosaur, and it laid an egg that was changed from Darwin's theory.
The egg came first because a chicken comes from an egg. At whatever point you decide to call the chicken a true chicken, it must have come from an egg. Because the different species before it must have evolved to make a chicken, the egg came first
The egg comes first because a bird a long long time ago evolving into a chicken lays an egg which hatches into a chicken.
An egg comes first, because dinosaurs laid eggs, and chickens didn't exist at that time.
Simple. The Egg.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by mecap 6 years ago
mecap
Another typo: technically the chicken... {insert the rest of my explanation and Labradoodle example here}
Posted by mecap 6 years ago
mecap
Sorry for the repeated typos, but there seems to be a problem when I type in any text fields on debate.org... it doesn't happen on any other text fields nor applications on my computer, so I know it's something to do with debate.org, anyway, I hope my answer sheds light.
Posted by mecap 6 years ago
mecap
Technically the egg: to explain this a little better, we can look at a simpler example: the Labradoodle, which is a mix between a Labrador an a Poodle. The Labradoodle did not exist until a (say) female Labrador mated with a male Poodle, so the Labrador's egg and the Poodle's sperm existed before the Labradoodle, but neither were a Labradoodle's egg or sperm. When the first Labradoodle was born, then it could have Labradoodle eggs and sperms, but not until it was born. Apply the same logic to chickens: a chicken egg could be produced only when the first chicken was hatched (thanks two other closely related species mixing), until then the eggs were not chicken eggs but the eggs of another bird which was not identified as a chicken, just like the sperms and the eggs of the Labrador and the Poodle were not identified as Labradoodle sperms an eggs.
Posted by baggins 6 years ago
baggins
Plagiarism alert. Con is trying to con everyone

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com...
Posted by seraine 6 years ago
seraine
The chicken quite obviously came before the egg...
Posted by coolmikeb 6 years ago
coolmikeb
chiken or egg???
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Vote Placed by Deathbeforedishonour 6 years ago
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coolmikebAKOONAMATATATied
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Reasons for voting decision: This debate was interesting. Both sides debated well, but I think pro did a better job.
Vote Placed by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Baggins called it.
Vote Placed by Haasenfeffor 6 years ago
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Vote Placed by baggins 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: AKOONAMATATA plagiarized her argument. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110313063602AABAeNG 5:0 to Pro only, since Pro did not really argue much either. I do not like this debate.
Vote Placed by Ore_Ele 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Arguments to Con, since Pro never made an logical arguments. I cited spelling against Con, because of the weird font and that Con didn't maintain that font throught the debate, and cited conduct against Pro for not actually engaging into the debate.
Vote Placed by BlackVoid 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro did not refute con's arguments.