do you think british govermnt bend backwards for the muslms?
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i just wanted to post something interested that had today.
i was in supermarket looking at few newspaper when a old black men was aslo looking at newspaper, starting to talk to me.
he was reading something that muslums culture are doing their thing here in the uk like pologramy marriages ( men can have more than 1 wife in thier culture) but in uk it not allowed but he keeping say that the british people are allow them , as they allow them a lot freedroms , he keeping saying british bend backwards for them... for years. he aslo said muslum even have they own court sytems here.
but in thier countrys they want to kill britsih people
he aslo said the worse are the british muslum , the ones who go to other countries and kill british people.
he aslo comment why are they treated different,he aslo belive the main cuase of the bomb in 2005 was all the freedom british goverment give to them.
you know what, i was just....like thinking
is he right or wrong?
do you agree or disagree why?
I did made a commment to him saying maybe british goverment are scared of them as we all know they CAN be very dangerous... or is it because britain as a lot buiness connections with them and they dont wanna lose them,
Kind Regards for this Debate. I will stand by the point that 'british govermnt is not bend backwards for the muslms'.
I will take this debate (a little bit) serious, however I would like to correct Pros countless spelling mistakes....
As to the Topic 'do you think british govermnt bend backwards for the muslms?', or the English translation of said topic, 'Do you think the British government is bending backwards for Muslims?' I represent the Con side, as to that I do not believe that the British government is bending backwards for Muslims and hold this opinion for several reasons.
1st.) Pros 'source' was an old black man who was reading newspapers in a supermarket. Now, I don't know about you but unless he is a terrorism, legal or social studies expert I do not see this as evidence to anything. Furthermore he was wrong in almost everything he stated.
2nd.) Pro does not seem to have an opinion on the topic, as everything Pro posted is only on a question, not a statement or argumentative level. Furthermore, there is no evidence as to Pros claims other than the 'old black man', who, once again, is not an authority on the subject. Who is this old black man, who seemingly knows so much about the UK's socio religious issues?
3rd.) The British do not allow polygamy marriage. Muslims can have several wives, however, this is not recognised by the UK and as such not a lawful bond between husband and wife. Any of those women could simply leave their husband, while the men could do the same, as they are, legally speaking, not married. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk...)
4th.) Muslims do not have their own court system in the UK. This rumour seemingly was started by newspapers (now we know the sources of this mysterious old black man) who have no clue about legal procedures. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk...) This is simply (and seemingly) a kind of contract, just like clauses in a marriage contract that give either side a amount of money in case of unfaithfulness, just that it is set in a 'sharia law' style setting. Don't sign it if you don't agree?? Also note that this, to my knowledge has not been made legal, so, once again, the old black man was incorrect.
5th.) I would like to address the 'evidence' that British Muslims are 'the worst'. I wouldn't know how the 'source' would have this information. I cannot distinguish who are the 'worst' Muslims, as this is so broadly defined that I will not even comment on how stupid this is..
6th.) How are Muslims treated differently? The only thing I know is that they are heavily discriminated and treated badly. In fact, this (http://www.independent.co.uk...) news-article claims that Muslims 'face worst job discrimination of any minority group, according to research' and that male Muslims were 76% less likely to have a job compared to their white, Christian British counterparts. So yes, Muslims are treated differently, but not in a way that would benefit them, which seems to be what the 'old black man' seems to think.
7th.) I do not know nor can I find the alleged Muslim freedom that the UK government is giving Muslims. As far as I know they are treated the same as everyone else.
8th.) I do not think the British government is scared of them, many Muslims are immigrants who could be sent back to their countries if they'd cause problems. Also, Muslims make up 2.8% of UK citizens, against 71.6% Christians. A tiny number, overall.
9th.) Muslims 'can' be 'dangerous'? In what sense? Also, lets assume you mean killings. There are 1.6 Billion followers of Islam. About 56 million humans die each year, according to the WHO. Now, If I calculate that each one of these 56 million humans is killed by a different follower of Islam we get 56 million Muslims that killed somebody, correct? 56 million is a mere 3.5% of the worldwide followers of Islam, and obviously this is just to showcase how ridiculous the claim is that 'Muslims can be dangerous'. In every religious group there are 'dangerous' individuals, to pretend that Islam is the only one is just biased, naive and plain stupid.
10th.) The UK, to my knowledge, doesn't treat Muslims any better than anyone else.. In a sense actually worse. Also, who is 'them', in context to the question 'is it because britain as a lot buiness connections with them and they dont wanna lose them'? Please specify!
In conclusion Pro did not include an actual argument, nor voice an opinion nor statement, but just wrote a basic story asking for ideas. Con negated the 'source', as well as provide evidence to support this, as well as the topic, that the British government is not bend backwards for Muslims.
Kind Regards, I am looking forward to the next round.
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Con has used sources and actual evidence to rebut all of Pros 'claims', although Pros standpoint on the topic is unsure, as they did not provide neither an opinion nor an actual argument.
In conclusion I have to say that I do not think that "british govermnt bend backwards for the muslms."
Kind Regards to Pro, all readers and all voters.
Have a nice day!
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Vote Placed by Emilrose 1 year ago
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