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Madaan
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Burls
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does god exist or not

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/26/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Madaan

Pro

i say god does exist but my perception of god is a bit different . god is not a person . god can not be personified . its just a sort of vibration . so to see the god as a person seems completely wrong. on one side you say that god has unlimited powers and on the other hand u put restriction by personifying the god.
Burls

Con

God can be personified, in my opinion, and has restricted powers.
Debate Round No. 1
Madaan

Pro

if you say someone has restricted powers then can not say that 'thing' god for sure. The soul concept of god deals with having unlimited powers to create and to destroy.
Burls

Con

With Jesus sitting at "The right hand of the Father" one might consider Jesus's position as delegated with limited scope, within the confines of Christianity.
This is in respect to Jesus as a God.

Extrapolation from the premise of delegated power suggests a hierarchy of power extending beyond our conceptions with each stage limited in scope as per area of interest.
Debate Round No. 2
Madaan

Pro

Madaan forfeited this round.
Burls

Con

Why would an all-powerful God intervene in matters prescribed to delegates? Considering He is out of the loop and may contribute inconsistently with accustomed protocol, we might perceive Him as a buffoon; But that's exactly how we may perceive our immediate superiors given their experience within the system we are new to. Ergo our perception of the Gods being insane or uncaring is based on our inexperience.

We might expect all-powerful beings to impose themselves like warlords upon the field; But a cultured representative may act differently. Many expect a warlord; Our culture prepares us to that expectation, and considering our inexperience in retrospect we know we can be wrong.

The story then is a second-hand account of the dealings between an all-powerful God and His delegates.
Debate Round No. 3
Madaan

Pro

Madaan forfeited this round.
Burls

Con

God delegated power to the Angels and to Christ the power to forgive sin, if we can believe scripture
Debate Round No. 4
Madaan

Pro

Madaan forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Burls 2 years ago
Burls
"If I tell you to "solve conflicts in the manner you accept to be applied to yourself" and then you elect a representative who tells you to forcefully repel interlopers, how is God responsible when you are forcefully repelled?"

-The response to questions #6 overran the character quota.
Posted by Burls 2 years ago
Burls
Okay, so #7 is the reply to #6
Posted by Burls 2 years ago
Burls
1./ "Dear Burls you have put forth quite an intriguing argument, however on the basis of the Bible you have stated that Jesus is God's right hand man but to a person coming from a different cultural and religious background will find it quite odd."

Indeed, for someone from a different cultural base it would be right, in my opinion, to state that God delegated power to their own cultural representative of God, be it Mohammed or Arunja etc.

2./ "Not only that but The Bible itself has been diluted throughout the ages and is not capable to confirm His existence."

The dilution can be said for any scripture and a question of "why" may lead to speculation.

3./ "But even if he does exist how can you be certain that God is a warlord ?"

I thought I adequately described that God is readily perceived as a conquering warlord from the culturally accepted perspectives in scriptures.

4./ "It feels as though you have had a little too much of "experience" with that concept."

Yes, you are correct, my experience of authority is that "Might is right", and however we construe authority to be benign it is our condition to repel unwelcome intrusion with force.

5./ "Another thing that bothers me is the fact that you call us inexperienced, Im sorry but dude we exist on Earth, we suffer from numerous diseases, we have to earn , we have to do what it takes to survive so of course if someone feels that God is insane then he or she has the right to say so!"

Yes, of course we are not Islam or China where free-speech is frowned upon.

6./ "How can God be oblivious to those innocent people who are being ruthlessly killed, how can he turn a blind eye to those heinous acts ? If He created us then should he be responsible for what happens to us ?"

7./ If I tell you to "solve conflicts in the manner you accept to be applied to yourself" and then you elect a representative who tells you to forcefully repel interlopers, how is God responsible when you are forcefully r
Posted by TheCuriousAustin1715 2 years ago
TheCuriousAustin1715
Dear Burls you have put forth quite an intriguing argument, however on the basis of the Bible you have stated that Jesus is God's right hand man but to a person coming from a different cultural and religious background will find it quite odd. Not only that but The Bible itself has been diluted throughout the ages and is not capable to confirm His existence. But even if he does exist how can you be certain that God is a warlord ? It feels as though you have had a little too much of "experience" with that concept. Another thing that bothers me is the fact that you call us inexperienced, Im sorry but dude we exist on Earth, we suffer from numerous diseases, we have to earn , we have to do what it takes to survive so of course if someone feels that God is insane then he or she has the right to say so! How can God be oblivious to those innocent people who are being ruthlessly killed, how can he turn a blind eye to those heinous acts ? If He created us then should he be responsible for what happens to us ?
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
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