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luv4china
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Conspicuous_Conservative
Con (against)
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does school suspensions do more harm than good.

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Started: 2/24/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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luv4china

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there is much controversy over the effectiveness of school suspension since it does not teach students more effective ways to handle conflicts.instead it results in a loss of academic instructional time for a subgroup of students who need it most.
Conspicuous_Conservative

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I would like to thank my opponent for a topic I have never really thought of up until this point. I would like to thank those of you out their who will put their input and or vote on this issue. My opponent has made her opening statement concise so I will do the same in an effort to move this debate along and make it fair.

Suspension to those who care about school takes you away from your friends, at my school if you where a habitual offender they would also take away extra curricular activities such as sports and clubs away. So their is a punishment for being suspended. The fact that you must make up the time and school work on your own time simply adds to the punishment.

The problem with my opponents issue is the fact that suspension is made to protect students who want to be at school from being interrupted from clowns. Suspension gets the distractions out of class while the students are free to learn in a better environment. I would like to see the issues my opponent brings up in the later rounds and for those of you who want to chime in be my guest.
Debate Round No. 1
luv4china

Pro

instead of out of school suspension,you could do the following consequences:1 Phone call to parents and/or a parent conference
2 After school or lunch detention
3 Co-curricular activity suspension (sports or clubs)
4 Restitution (financial or social, such as a written apology)
5 Community service around the school
6 School-based or home-school contingency contract
7 Saturday school
Conspicuous_Conservative

Con

All of those are very good levels of punishment for children but in a situation in which class is in session are you advocating that we should allow a student to stay in class and disrupt other students from learning. It is a teachers obligation to teach the curriculum and he/she cannot do that if their is a child acting up.

How would you go about punishing those who are disruptive on a regular basis?

How would you punish those who take other students and corrupt them into committing disruptive behavior?

Why do you place the welfare of the disruptive child that try before that of the students who follow the rules?

By coddling these children you teach them that there is no punishment for bad behavior and your teaching the students that obey that there is no benefit for poor behavior.
Debate Round No. 2
luv4china

Pro

no...im not saying that at all...im saying that instead of putting them somewhere where they will be disruptive and not paying attention,you could instead put them where they will not get distracted.The incidence of "out-of-school suspensions" is increasing dramatically. For example, the Chicago public school system suspended over 20,000 students in 2003, more than doubling the rate over the past decade.
The wrong "message" is being sent to the offending student who is suspended out-of-school. That message is: "You as a person are so repugnant to us that you do not even deserve our attention or support."
Conspicuous_Conservative

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I am very impressed, you are obviously a young girl who has true concern in a topic that effects your life not only in school but in your future. It is unfortunate that the numbers of suspension are increasing but the problem starts at home where parents do not discipline their children. If their is no discipline at home no amount of punishment at school is going to fix anything.

In the real world a person who is habitualy breaking rules or tardy will not be suspended and guaranteed a place to come back to they will be fired.

With that fact true why baby the children who continue to disrupt the educations and future. Thanks for your debate and I wish you the best.

Sincerely,
SPC Rautert, Frederick J.
USAR
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Gespenst 8 years ago
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From experience I think that school suspensions are useful and are sometimes the only thing that can help. But Con won the debate.
Posted by Off_the_Wall.Paul 8 years ago
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I agree with the title of this topic. Remediation is imperative to adequately handle delinquent students. Unfortunately, many school systems are failing in this regard.
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