enslaving the terriosts and war criminals
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"The Constitution that the delegates proposed included several provisions that explicity recognized and protected slavery. Without these provisions, southern delegates would not support the new Constitution--and without the southern states on board, the Constitution had no chance of being ratified. Provisions allowed southern states to count slaves as 3/5 persons for purposes of apportionment in Congress (even though the slaves could not, of course, vote), expressly denied to Congress the power to prohibit importation of new slaves until 1808, and prevented free states from enacting laws protecting fugitive slaves."
"Every master of slaves is born a petty tyrant. They bring the judgment of heaven on a country. As nations cannot be rewarded or punished in the next world, they must be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes and effects, providence punishes national sins by national calamities."
"The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. "
However, it is wrong to lay claim or "ownership" to a person and therefore thats why enslaving war criminals or terrorists is unacceptable.
I would like to reply to you on this subject
First, let's take a peek at some of what did the terrorists and war criminals
Joseph Stalin's terror campaigns in 1936 which claimed the lives of millions of human souls
Theocracy in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan
The enslavement of non-Muslims
Saudi Arabia massacres against freedom of opinion and civilians
Only this peek tells you about the amount of pain and suffering that they have caused to the world
Second, the subject of judgment
Bad people have done terrible things .. we can take advantage of them in the general interest of the state as well as the private good of the citizens
In that way we will hit two birds with one stone
In observation on your opinion on terrorists and the crimes they have committed, there have been some awful crimes done against people and families.
"The enslavement of non-Muslims" you state as a crime
But if you are for "enslaving" terrorists and war criminals, how can you be against enslaving non-Muslims?
Although Terrorist and War Criminals deserve punishment, they do not deserve to be enslaved.
Now granted, in accordance to the fact that when you meant "enslaved" you mean civil labor? In that case, I am in favor of enforcing Terrorists and War Criminals to complete community service and other jobs.
Either way, Slavery is wrong and enslaving anyone, terrorist or not, would still be wrong.
However, I do stand by putting them to work.
"Slavery is a legal or economic system in which principles of property law are applied to humans allowing them to be classified as property, to be owned, bought and sold accordingly, and they cannot withdraw unilaterally from the arrangement. While a person is a slave, the owner is entitled to the productivity of the slave's labour, without any remuneration."
Slavery is classified as humans being property and being able to be sold from one person to the next.
No one "owns" another human being, and cannot force them into slavery.
However, community service or labor would be appropriate. Slavery is not.
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Vote Placed by lord_megatron 8 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct and spelling and grammar was equal on both sides, both forfeited one round. Con argued that slavery was part of the 13th amendment and shouldn't be done in any circumstance, while pro just gave a list of the deeds of war crimes. Con used the only sources.
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