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every problem does not have a solution

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Started: 12/15/2016 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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alice95

Pro

there exists problems who's solution doesn't exists.
vi_spex

Con

honest is the answer to any question
Debate Round No. 1
alice95

Pro

thanks everyone for giving your views
what made me start a debate over this was off course to come up with nice ways to shot down problems.
but till now i have faced problems who's solution simply do not exits.
there are some processes which are considered irreversible , i hope everyone's getting me if my friends have quite a knowledge of thermodynamics. the same applies to philosophy as well .
SO WHAT IF WE CONSIDER THESE IRREVERSIBLE PROCESSES AS PROBLEMS.
i know it would go a bit into science but just for having a nice example: when you transfer energy like transfering electricity, some energy is lost as heat.
PROBLEM: are there ways to get that heat lost back?
i guess no.
now if u question the genre of the problem, then that might put you out of the debate coz the argument was..there exists problems , not having solution.
such problems exists in philosophy as well as in all other fields.
vi_spex

Con

oh right, sure in that case obviusly

if its irreversible you cant reverse it, if you reversed it it wasnt irreversible

you could have cables that absorb the heat.. but the heat is so little that its irrelveant
Debate Round No. 2
alice95

Pro

its not very clear by agreeing with irreversible stuffs u agree with existence of solutionless problems.
second, u didnt got my question..u r probably trying to come with a precaution. what i am concerned with is more similar to cure.
there exists no way to get that heat back. though u can reduce it in some way so there's no need to get it back.
since, unfortunately, we can't trace time back..the matter is the current has already passed and the heat is already lost, probably u have no way now to get the energy back.
another problem comes up here..u can not reverse time. its not that one can not travel time...its about reversing it.
there exists many.
vi_spex

Con

you cant reverse the irreversible

i was thinking heat absorbing wire for the wire, but there is so little heat coming from it, its not really relevant with heat absorption..

you can not reverse death, you cant uncut an apple, you can half something without doubling, you cant give something without taking something

they are not problems, but answers.. you dont want to jump from of a cliff high above
Debate Round No. 3
alice95

Pro

my next point would be the problems whose solutions do not exist or are yet to be revealed.
consider the problems like ways to improve memory, intelligence, hairfall problems, ageing problems, height problems, women related problems:biological one's, mild obesity problems, etc...
you would probably refer such people to doctors but what if you are a kid or what if you don't have enough money.
another problem:what if somebody wants to change something or some action he/she did in past.
what if a poor person needs money urgently, what if somebody is stuck into an endless desert with no water and is extremely thirsty, what if u are standing watching a bullet coming towards you and you cant think of any action(sometimes the point of time at which you come with a solution for a problem also matters. )
and so....
now what i am probably gonna face is these are question yet to be addressed or are on the way with their answers.
but for people living in present these are merely problems , since their solutions do not exist now.
try standing at a place with one of those problems and here you start understanding that at an individual level there exists many many problems which can't be solved.
don't drive it all into science and try solving problems at individual levels..what u would probably come up with is more like hypothetical solutions.
vi_spex

Con

there isnt a solution to every problem.. i dont know how this can be a hard question for anyone

aging is a problem if youth is a problem, death is a problem if life is a problem, the existence of pain is a problem if joy is a problem
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by MakeSensePeopleDont 1 year ago
MakeSensePeopleDont
@alice951 --

"again u r getting my point wrong...what can u do once the energy is lost." -- The energy was lost and turned into thermal energy, thermoelectric power generators would capture that lost thermal energy, and convert it back into electrical energy, then send it back into the system. ||
"what can u do once the glass is broken ." -- Depends what the glass is. The generator I mentioned, takes the "broken glass", liquefies it, recasts it back into a "glass", then hands it back to you with a bow on top. My second solution installs airbags on the "glass" to avoid it from ever breaking.
"taking it to diff platform..are there ways to remove a memory formed inside your brain." -- Yes, absolutely. Our brains do that exact task millions of quadrillions of times each day. Without this ability already in use, we would literally go insane within hours from all the data our brains are consciously processing. Humans just don't currently understand how this works or how to replicate the process. This doesn't mean it's not possible or doesn't happen.
Posted by MakeSensePeopleDont 1 year ago
MakeSensePeopleDont
@alice951 -- No, I did NOT get your point wrong, I answered your question "Does every problem have a solution?", by providing two solid, attainable solutions. The first solution takes the new heat energy and directly converts it back into electrical energy, placing it back into the system; this directly answers your question "Can we get that thermal energy back into electrical energy?". My second solution took a different approach by eliminating the problem from ever occurring, which even philosophers would say, directly solves your stated problem. || What you are doing is called "Scope Creep". You outlined a scope (a specific set) of deliverables (items you wanted) and also defined what a successful completion would look like (Providing a solution to the presented problem). || You are moving the goal post. If you would like to address a different problem, I would be happy to, in a new debate, with the proper scope defined.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
you dont have kevlar in every gun fight
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
make a stronger glass next time

my point still stands, its called irreversible for a reason, if it could be reversed its wouldnt be irreversible..

does a tight ceal, leak?
Posted by alice95 1 year ago
alice95
again u r getting my point wrong...what can u do once the energy is lost.
what can u do once the glass is broken .
taking it to diff platform..are there ways to remove a memory formed inside your brain.
i am straight challenging irreversible stuffs
Posted by MakeSensePeopleDont 1 year ago
MakeSensePeopleDont
" transfering electricity, some energy is lost as heat. PROBLEM: are there ways to get that heat lost back? There exists no way to get that heat back." -- Yes, there are two ways of solving this problem. 1) Installation of Thermoelectric Power Generators spanning the length of the wire. Although inefficient in its current version, it would prove this loss of energy could be recouped. The technology simply needs to be advanced and combination generators could be implemented to help out. 2) Approach the problem not from an energy recovery standpoint, but from an energy retention standpoint. This would require the introduction of better insulated and more conducive wiring to increase voltage and decrease loses. Better insulation would also increase safety and decrease interference for immediate area. Once this is achieved, step down boxes could be moved closer to the destination until finally, step down is down so close to the destination that low-voltage power lines would have no time for power loss.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
* round 3
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
heat absorbing eh, shell? on the wire, not sure of the word
Posted by MakeSensePeopleDont 1 year ago
MakeSensePeopleDont
I have a very low level? Low level of what? This isn't Final Fantasy bro. Yes, you actually can stop a bullet, that's why military and police use Kevlar.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
you weakling
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