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faith and reason which comes first

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/27/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vicious101

Pro

This debate is based on faith and reason,in trying to understand which comes first because of the tention created by the ambivalence of human existential situation
Imperfiect

Con

Faith comes first. Anyone is capable of faith, not as many are capable to then discard it for what he reason reveals to be true.
Debate Round No. 1
vicious101

Pro

vicious101 forfeited this round.
Imperfiect

Con

I have faith that you will forfeit this for an easy win.

My reasoning leads me to believe it.
Debate Round No. 2
vicious101

Pro

vicious101 forfeited this round.
Imperfiect

Con

Easy win.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by missmedic 2 years ago
missmedic
the question is not clear.
If the question is asking historically which came first, then logically it would have to be reason.
Reason is needed to understand reality.
Faith has no value. Faith is not a virtue. From the objective perspective, rationality is a virtue because it permits me to ground my thinking on reality, which is more conductive to the pursuit of my goals than fantasy. Having beliefs does not improve our knowledge, but rather uses the imagination to give us the certainty we crave. No reasonable person should have faith.
Posted by Imperfiect 2 years ago
Imperfiect
Sorry someone was abusive to you and I reported his comment.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
Like what? You only like comments that don't mean anything?
Posted by Imperfiect 2 years ago
Imperfiect
Don't comment like that on my debate, thank you.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
Now bible faith reaches into that unseen world where God is and procures whatever promise you are reaching for.Healing, or deliverance or salvation.

reasoning will not get past your nose for any of those things.Reasoning limits you to whatever solution you can find in this limited world.There is no such thing as terminal disease in faith, just reasoning.
Posted by Theunkown 2 years ago
Theunkown
Not sure whether this talks about what human nature dictates the position of faith and reason or whether this discusses which SHOULD ideally come first
Posted by Atmas 2 years ago
Atmas
You must reason an answer before you can have faith in that answer. Unless you consider blind faith in which you do not seek an answer, and instead, accept ignorance.
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Vote Placed by Theunkown 2 years ago
Theunkown
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