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Debatwinnerpro
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bluerreds
Con (against)

feminism NEEDS to be stopped

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/30/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Debatwinnerpro

Pro

I am talking about 3rd wave feminism, first round is acceptance.
bluerreds

Con

The feminism is necessary, because the woman has always been despised by the society. It wouldn't be necessary if people stop belittling the figure of the woman, but this never happened, and It will never happened with closed mindsets.
That's why you need one, two, three waves, it doesn't matter, It matters the message that woman isn't an object of the world.
When we stop being treated as inferior people... we do not stop fighting, because It's many years treating us like this. And we want our place.
The vocabulary, the culture, the history, the works... in many areas the woman is denigrated, in the XXI century, and that is rather worrying.
Debate Round No. 1
Debatwinnerpro

Pro

I should rename the debate "Feminism is Bad" lets just consider that the title, ok.

first off women have achieved equality in every way

1. equal pay https://www.eeoc.gov... and https://www.forbes.com...

2. feminists will bring up "catcalling" but catcallers are looked down upon.

3. more men die in war then women

4. we do not live in a rape culture, men who are even FALSELY accused of rape will have their reputation and lives ruined, and men who DID rape women go to prison and are looked down upon by society, and their fellow inmates (hope he doesnt drop the soap)

5. 38% of rape victims are men https://www.forbes.com... and men are less likely to report it

6. when a man says he was raped by a women everyone thinks it is ridiculous

7. if you really want gender equality then why cant a man hit a women back? men cant in our society, and if a man hits another man they will get the living sh*t beat out of him.

give me some proof that women ARENT treated equaly (in america) also i know that you will most likely forfeit this debate, a feminist tactic, when feminists are proven wrong they just run away and are offended
bluerreds

Con

Yes, because to consider that feminist is bad will make the percentage of equality rise, of course ( sarcasm)

The woman have achieved A PART of equality, but totally? No men.

1. Yes, equal pay... ". https://www.forbes.com... and https://www.aauw.org...

2. The thing is to know difference between a catcalling a compliment, they are two completely different things.

3. More men died in war? Then don't go to war, I don't understand what does this have to do with feminist.

Sorry, but I will not argue about the violation, for me to violate either male or female is wrong, and it has have punishment .But the percentage of women is higher.

And men do not denounce it, like many women who also do not report for fear of that or other situations. http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

OMG, Really? Violence is bad in both cases, but look: https://www.huffingtonpost.com...
The percentage are horrible.

I do not hate men, I do not think they are inferior to women, but what is clear is that the classicist tendency to persuade that women are weak people has to end, because unfortunately that is still latent in society.

And even if you find it exasperating, what you say does not offend me or make me want to run, it just makes me want to have the desire to fight even more.
Debate Round No. 2
Debatwinnerpro

Pro

you said OMG, Really? Violence is bad in both cases, but look: https://www.huffingtonpost.com...
The percentage are horrible."

well a study found this out, "Roughly 40 percent of the victims of severe physical violence were men." https://www.yahoo.com... and https://www.theguardian.com... also other studies found that men are less likely to report it look at this other study that found "Only 10 per cent of male victims will tell the police
Around 27 per cent of women will tell the police" http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk...

47% of the perpetrators are women aswell. http://www.slate.com...

and the sad thing about this is most of the organisations to help people of sexual and physical abuse accept men way less than women , because people think men being raped is rare, but it isn't.

you also said "More men died in war? Then don't go to war, I don't understand what does this have to do with feminist."

well, men have been forced to be drafted for more than ONE-HUNDRED YEARS!!!!

And catcalling?????? everyone hates that, cat-callers are looked down upon by society!
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bluerreds 8 months ago
bluerreds
Well, If thinking that you have destroyed me makes you sleep well at night, good for you. But don't put your arguments on a pedestal, my five-year-old nephew makes the same arguments, think about it.
Posted by Debatwinnerpro 8 months ago
Debatwinnerpro
i have destroyed you, all of what you said was proven wrong
Posted by bluerreds 8 months ago
bluerreds
I suppose that the comment previus goes for me, well you have not destroyed me,
I just forgot about this, things that happen
Posted by Debatwinnerpro 8 months ago
Debatwinnerpro
come on i think we both have it just as good, nobody is a victim here, you basically have been destroyed with facts! MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT!! dont forfeit lol
Posted by Bitch_Goddess 8 months ago
Bitch_Goddess
It seems you guys are having a competition as to "who had it worse".
I thought this debate was focused on why 3rd wave feminism should end.
Posted by Bitch_Goddess 8 months ago
Bitch_Goddess
3rd wave feminism gives feminism a bad name.
Con, please just stop. You don't speak for all women. First wave feminism is the way to go. Putting women above men is so incredibly ridiculous, it hurts. It still surprises me to this day that people like yourself actually exist. Let alone this stupid ideology that women should be above men.
I'm a woman, by the way.
Posted by EXOPrimal 8 months ago
EXOPrimal
Stopping people from speaking out, however stupid, is a violation of the first amendment. This debate is not winnable for you.
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