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BangBang-Coconut
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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/11/2011 Category: Sports
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Voting Period
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lukepa

Pro

I think Liverpool fc is the best football team ever and i would love to see if someone disagrees
BangBang-Coconut

Con

I thank my opponent for their challenge.

First, my opponent gives a statement of opinion with-out any kind of warrant to back up their belief.

Second, there is no such thing as a "Best" when it comes to sports or sport teams. Those fall down to opinions as to who enjoys whatever team. therefore There can be no best as it would take away the ability of people to have opinions.

Finally The burden of proof is on the Pro, they have not proven their claim, thus the Con is winning.

For all of these reasons, thus far you must vote Con
I now hand the debate back over to my opponent!
Debate Round No. 1
lukepa

Pro

I thank my opponent for arguing. But liverpoolfc is the best team ever name a team whos won
18 cups since football started.
BangBang-Coconut

Con

I thank my opponent for his swift responses.

First, My opponent never addresses my prior arguments; therefore they must extend across.

Second, my opponent tells us that their favorite team has won so many world cups, but gives us no empirical evidence to believe as much. For an argument like this w can't even begin to consider it without proof.

The cone is Still winning as the Pro has not met the burden of proof.
I hand the debate back over to the Pro!
Debate Round No. 2
lukepa

Pro

The point is that if Any team would have a match against Liverpool they would get beat.Beacuse liverpool have the
best team players with good reputaion beacuse if you say chelseafc they have a bad reputaion.

Looking foward to cons respons
BangBang-Coconut

Con

Again, my opponent makes a statement of fact with-out proof; Vote against him for this as it's not a viable claim.

My opponent doesn't cover my prior statements, and e drops all of my attacks on his stance; extend my points.
Vote Con

Back to pro
Debate Round No. 3
lukepa

Pro

lukepa forfeited this round.
BangBang-Coconut

Con

My opponent has forfeited, Extend all prior attacks please and thank you~
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by phantom 3 years ago
phantom
oops! another mistake I said "you'll ever walk alone" lol ment to say You'll NEVER walk alone.
Posted by phantom 3 years ago
phantom
Sorry I mean 18 titles not 19.
Posted by phantom 3 years ago
phantom
Wolfhains Yeah that's true
Liverpool were the most successful club in England. But then Alex Ferguson came around and won so many league titles that they are now equal with 19 titles each. You could argue that Liverpool are more successful because they've won more champions league titles, but i think Manu may have won more Fa cups, and Carling cups.
Liverpool do though actually have a good reputation. Even according to a survey Liverpool have the best fans in the world. People who don't even support the club have marveled when they went to games at the way Liverpool fans cheer their team on with such enthusiasm.
In the epic Champions league final of Istanbul Liverpool were 3-0 down at half time, but the fans still cheered the team off at half time singing "you'll ever walk alone" (liverpools "theme song") Liverpool came back to draw 3-3 and won on penalties. I have heard them singing the song numerous time this season as well during the (absolutely forgettable) Hodgson era.
What happened at Hillsbrough was tragic and can never be forgiven. I feel ashamed about what you mentioned myself, even though I'm American, and wasn't even alive then. But that was a long time ago and things have gotten better. That was also only a section of the fans. Most fans were not like that. Still though can't be forgiven.
Liverpool have always been a "working class" club. They don't buy their success like some teams. The youth are taught to show respect, never complain, and never give up. They don't usually have players that just want money, they don't have players that dive an cheat. That is why I admire Manu they are a similar club to Liverpool (although Nani is such a cheat!) Chelsea and man city have completely bought their success. They have players that get payed more than twice as much as Gerrard gets paid, and their no where near as good as Stevie G.
Liverpool are a great club but not THE greatest.
YNWA. LFC 4 life.
Posted by wolfhaines 3 years ago
wolfhaines
Manchester United, Real Madrid, AC Milan. Bayern Munich. 4 teams that can equal or better Liverpools domestic and/or european record.

Liverpool have never won the Premiership. 4 other teams have. So to state they have the best players, and best team is disproven.

Liverpool have the best reputation do they? The actions of Liverpool fans throught the 70s and 80s in Europe contributed to English teams being banned from European competitions. Also their actions towards their own fans at Hillsbrough has never been dismissed as blameless. Their reputation, therefore, is not the best.

None of what you just said can be taken as anything other than opinion. Blind opinion at that. I agree with phantom- his debate is better.
Posted by phantom 3 years ago
phantom
Liverpool rock. But pro had a very weak argument.
Lol con doesn't even know much about soccer and he easily beat him. Con said pro states his favorite team has won so many world cups etc...
clubs don't win world cups that's for international teams. Clubs win League titles, or cups such as the Fa cup, Carling cup.
Here's some REAL debating about the worlds most awesome sport :)

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Vote Placed by RoyLatham 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro did not argue in response to Con's objections. Fordeit loses conduct.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro did not hold up the burden of proof and forfeited.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro doesn't make an argument and forfeits.