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free debate. I am ready to debate anything including funny things

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/6/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TheRightJE

Pro

State what you want to debate. just know that I am conservative and my views are sort of typical right-wing views
macaztec

Con

I was just watching videos on Youtube. While watching an episode of CinemaSins I remembered participating in arguments on the comments section about The Hunger Games book vs movie.

So:

The Hunger Games Book(s) (Pro) vs Movie(s) (Con). (I will allow my opponent to choose whether that is the first The Hunger Games or both The Hunger Games and Catching Fire.

Burden Of Proof Shared. Pro is arguing that The Hunger Games book(s) is/are indeed better than the movie(s). Con is arguing that The Hunger Games movie(s) is/are equally as good as the books if not a little better. This is not intended to be semantical argument.
Debate Round No. 1
TheRightJE

Pro

Let's just do the first hunger games
I have found that I always enjoy the books better because there is the factor of imagination. You can create the entire world of this book in your head and have it tweaked however you want. 2. I think they did do comparatively better on these movie's accuracy compared to other movies such as percy jackson i mean, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? they ruined it. anyway, as i was saying, they did well on the movies accuracy, but you can always tell the book came before the movie because the book has some stuff that makes it better that the movie changed, or left out.
macaztec

Con

I would like to thank TheRightJE for being a sport in taking the debate.

Novels vs Movies - Is this a Holy War or a Case of A Little Understanding Would Go a Long Way?

Novels

I agree with my opponent that novels are enjoyable because one can use their imagination. That is the the very reason we read novels. The key thing to remember is that novels fall under the category of Literature. Which basically means that is a written works.

What this means is that when we read a novel, we depend on the author to describe to us what is happening. That is the purpose of a novel. To tell a story. This done primarily by narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org...
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com...

Movies

Movies, also known as films, are a visual medium. I challenge anyone that reads this to pick up a book about writing a screen play. What you will see very early on is a reminder that the purpose of a movie is to show the audience the story. Show. Don't tell. (To illustrate this I will include some links to sites the give advice to beginner screen writers).

https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://www.screenwriting.info...
https://thescriptlab.com...

Summing up why we are comparing apples and oranges.

So we do not go to a movie to be told a story. We go to a movie to see a story being told. Novels and movies are two completely different mediums. Not only that, but these two mediums have different purposes. If one goes to a movie expecting to be told a story then they are going with a misunderstanding of the purpose of movies.

Change is ALWAYS bad!!!!! Right?

One of the main complaints that is heard when unfairly comparing novel to movie is that "they" always change it. These changes can range from omitting certain characters to changing hair color. I remember someone telling me once that a movie was horrible. When I asked why the response was the one of the character's hair color was different in the movie. I never reached that level but I was once someone that similarly compared movies and novels. Then one day my Dad made a comment that changed the way I look at it.

I don't remember what we were watching. Whatever it was I had read the book and my Dad had not. I kept making comments about how they differed. I pointed out one change by saying, "That is not how it happened in the book." My Dad tersely responded, "This isn't the book." That changed my perspective.

Those four words changed how I looked at movies based on novels (or pretty much any other type of medium). I didn't understand all the reasons at that point. But I understood that the two were fundamentally different.

If my opponent wishes, I would be happy to discuss the changes (pros and cons) between the novel and the movie in the next round if my opponent wishes.
Debate Round No. 2
TheRightJE

Pro

TheRightJE forfeited this round.
macaztec

Con


My opponent has forfeited this round. I carry over my previous arguments. Hopefully my opponent will post in the next round.
Debate Round No. 3
TheRightJE

Pro

TheRightJE forfeited this round.
macaztec

Con

I carry my previous arguments over.
Debate Round No. 4
TheRightJE

Pro

TheRightJE forfeited this round.
macaztec

Con

My opponent has forfeited. I believe I have made my case.
Debate Round No. 5
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