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neonscissorluv
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Shadow-Dragon
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gay marriage is wrong

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Started: 5/29/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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neonscissorluv

Con

you believe that gay marriage is wrong and that's okay because that's your right to have but I would like to challenge that theory of yours first one of your reasons that justify that gay marriage is wrong is that it is an insult to god blah blah blah well I don't agree with the decision of bringing in religion,which of course is basically always the root of most problems,Because religion is based on faith,and belief....its not a proved fact that god or Jesus or the ten commandments or any of that stuff is real,religion is based and made up of faith so saying that homosexuals are an insult to god shouldn't even be one of your founding reasons against this..........because without the proof of a god that's your belief of something that they are "insulting".

Secondly,homosexual people are no different then any other human being on this planet,the only thing that makes them different is their sexual preference,they have the same goals dreams and accomplishments. They are the same as you and me, so if with that being said why should they be kept from fulfilling their right to be married. I am positive that you wouldn't want to be kept from your rights,its stupid,its like someone saying that you shouldn't be allowed to vote because you like purple and they don't.

being gay isn't wrong at all its wrong because you or whoever else is against it believes that it is wrong there ya go it all come back to belief......you don't like it so that means its wrong.......but what gives you the power to say that,your equal to any homosexual,your not better than them. So you have NO RIGHT to judge them and criticize them at all.

If there is a god........let him judge them because he is the only person who I could ever see as having the power to judge anyone. If being gay is a sin or an insult.....so be it but what they do is none of your concern or your business
Shadow-Dragon

Pro

Let us begin by first defining some terms

Gay Marriage( Same-sex Marriage): Defined as "The legally recognized union between two partners of the same sex"

Wrong: The word 'wrong', as defined by the Merriam Webster online dictionary, means:
"a behavior that is not morally good or correct"

So, the resolution, in other words, is to prove that the union between two partners of the same sex is morally incorrect.

I will dissect my argument into separate points.

{P1} The definition of marriage

Marriage for generations has been defined as the union between a man and a woman. This is what marriage has been known as even in the B.C.'s. It is taking the known tradition of marriage being a convanent between a man and a woman, and twisting the definition, in an attempt to encompass a larger group of people.

{P2} Natural
Intercourse is the sexual connection between two partners. Biologically, humans, and all other animals, have been made to survive and reproduce. The task of surviving is not difficult, but reproduction would be impossible for homosexuals, as long as they are biologically isolated- they do not get a surrogate or artificial insemination. The opposite genders have complementary sexual organs, for the purpose of reproduction. If the purpose of any group of animals is to have the population survive, certainly a group of individuals who can't would be a setback to the community, and their inability to reproduce makes them unnatural.

{P3} Inability to reproduce
Two gay partners, if they wanted children, would have to adopt (disregard the artificial forms). "Their" child is now deprived of a parent, a mother or father. The article linked at the bottom shows that fatherless children are more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. The lack of a parent of one gender has detrimental effects on the well-being of "their" child.

Thank you. I will continue my arguments and rebuttals next round.

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Debate Round No. 1
neonscissorluv

Con

merp I don't see how any of that stuff ill list it as makes gay marriage wrong I mean in my eyes that has nothing to do with the fact,which is that gay people should be allowed to be married your going with the traditional sense of things but everyone has their own envisioned of the definition of marriage,which to mean is the fact that two people love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together there kept it simple definition of marriage.

Secondly,so what if they cant reproduce that what adoptions for,and before anyone goes and says well gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt,what is wrong with two people who are incapable of having children wanting to give a kid who without them wouldn't have parents wrong?????????? yes the definition of wrong is morally unacceptable,but I don't think it is you do :) anyways I just don't see how any of that nonsense has anything to do with why gay marriage is wrong.

and another thing we are talking about human beings not animals therefore that topic of animals should not even be presented .
Shadow-Dragon

Pro

Let's begin with the counter-rebuttals.

"-is the fact that two people love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together there kept it simple definition of marriage."
-Not correct. Marriage has always been known as the union between a man and a woman. This definition does not evolve, even if society does.

"what is wrong with two people who are incapable of having children wanting {to adopt}."
-So, in an adoption situation, there are parents of one gender. Well, it has been proven that children that don't have the presence of a father are more likely to give in to sexual peer pressures- especially girls. In the case of a double-father partnership, kids who lack a mother presence are more likely to get into drugs and alcohol, and this is even higher for boys without a mother. Simply stated, lack of a parent of one gender has negative consequences on the development of the child.
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"and another thing we are talking about human beings not animals therefore that topic of animals should not even be presented ."
-Humans are indeed animals. No matter how smart we are, we have the fundamental similarities with animals- A need for survival, the wanting to reproduce, etc.

{P4} Science
-Opposites attract- a fundamental law of nature and science. Whether it be magnets or electrons-protons, it is shown that two different things were "made for each other" Man and woman, physically different, were made for each-other, as supported by:
{P5} Religion, the doctrine that billions follow. Even if you don't follow a religion, humans were made for men and woman to be together, reproduce, support their child, and contribute to society. Gay marriage hinders the growth of a rapidly-advancing population by taking away the chance for abled-people to contribute to the world.

Rather than vote biased, please vote on who did a better job debating with better points. Thank you for this debate.
-Shadow Dragon-
Debate Round No. 2
neonscissorluv

Con

neonscissorluv forfeited this round.
Shadow-Dragon

Pro

My opponent has forfeited their last round, so I shall recopy my previous argument.
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Let's begin with the counter-rebuttals.

"-is the fact that two people love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together there kept it simple definition of marriage."
-Not correct. Marriage has always been known as the union between a man and a woman. This definition does not evolve, even if society does.

"what is wrong with two people who are incapable of having children wanting {to adopt}."
-So, in an adoption situation, there are parents of one gender. Well, it has been proven that children that don't have the presence of a father are more likely to give in to sexual peer pressures- especially girls. In the case of a double-father partnership, kids who lack a mother presence are more likely to get into drugs and alcohol, and this is even higher for boys without a mother. Simply stated, lack of a parent of one gender has negative consequences on the development of the child.

"and another thing we are talking about human beings not animals therefore that topic of animals should not even be presented ."
-Humans are indeed animals. No matter how smart we are, we have the fundamental similarities with animals- A need for survival, the wanting to reproduce, etc.

{P4} Science
-Opposites attract- a fundamental law of nature and science. Whether it be magnets or electrons-protons, it is shown that opposites were "made for each other" Man and woman, physically different, were made for each-other, as supported by:

{P5} Religion, the doctrine that billions follow. Even if you don't follow a religion, humans were made for men and woman to be together, reproduce, support their child, and contribute to society. Gay marriage hinders the growth of a rapidly-advancing population by taking away the chance for the next generation to contribute to the world.

Please vote without bias. Thank you for this debate.

- Shadow-Dragon -
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Shadow-Dragon 2 years ago
Shadow-Dragon
Thank you for this debate experience.
Posted by Shadow-Dragon 2 years ago
Shadow-Dragon
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