The Instigator
ojmartinez25
Con (against)
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18 Points
The Contender
AJmartinez
Pro (for)
Winning
39 Points

gay marriage

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/21/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,327 times Debate No: 751
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ojmartinez25

Con

I think that god a man and a women to get marry, not a womwn and a women or a man with a man. So We US citizen have to stop it now.
AJmartinez

Pro

If you think that, then you are very much in the wrong. There is nothing wrong with marrying someone of the same sex. Look at the definition of marriage..."a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other" there is nothing there about a man and a woman, or man and man, or woman and woman...

Second, people get married because they love each other. Love is not limited to man and woman...it goes much farther beyond. Think about it like this, How would you like it if you were prevented from marrying the one you love because of something so petty as she's a certain race or religion? It's the same thing. It's not fair that a woman/man cannot get married to the person they love because that person is of the same sex!

Third, not everyone believes in God. So to them, it doesn't matter if He approves or not. Besides, if he is such a loving God, then don't you think He would want us as his creation to be happy?
Debate Round No. 1
ojmartinez25

Con

Homosexual marriage is illegal in Arizona, though the state defeated the referendum to make it illegal in our state constitution, the Arizona Supreme Court has upheld the decision to keep homosexual marriage illegal in the state in three separate court cases. A seemingly arbitrary decision from this poster's purview, as I don't see a legal distinction between homosexual and heterosexual couples. This is a prime example of something many people would decry as unjust, being upheld by the state and city government.

You might respond that people have the ability to fight this sort of injustice (if we can agree that this situation is unjust) with legal action, however as the AZ supreme court has already shown, legal action has proven useless and the majority of people in the state find homosexuality itself distasteful and thus feel that the legalization of it is wrong.

We can see from this view that there are few if any options left to homosexuals who would like to be married in the state of Arizona. They are a prime example of people who would benefit from civil disobedience.
AJmartinez

Pro

AJmartinez forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
ojmartinez25

Con

ojmartinez25 forfeited this round.
AJmartinez

Pro

I apologize about the previous round, but I would like to sum up my arguments. I will not add any more, because that would be unfair to ojmartinez.

First, as I stated before, marraige is the union of two people who are in love. And love is not limited to a man and a woman...it can go any way.

Second, If people wanted to have god in their lives, then all they have to do is go to church and read the bible right? What difference does it make if they're married or not?

And Oj, in your argument about AZ supreme court you stated yourself "A seemingly arbitrary decision from this poster's purview, as I don't see a legal distinction between homosexual and heterosexual couples." There is no difference between hetero and homosexual couples. Your entire argument in round two supports my entire case.

Case and point; gay marraige is not wrong. People should be allowed to marry whomever they choose.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by GreenEyes 8 years ago
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AJmartinez began a strong argument for pro and than ran out of steam. I was disappointed, but I voted for Pro as the Con argument was weak from the start and never became a credible argument.
Posted by Scyrone 8 years ago
Scyrone
"not only is ur debating bad, ur position bad but ur grammar is even bad. ajmartinez is"

Wow. His grammar is bad? No CAPS at beginning of sentence, misspelling of 'your', and single space after sentences does not mean you have good grammar. ;)
Posted by SeducedbyPoetry 8 years ago
SeducedbyPoetry
Even though they forfeited...AJ absolutely and totally. Perhaps the other person would be happier in the dark ages.
Posted by Partyboat 8 years ago
Partyboat
Oj and Ajmartinez? I can't believe that.
Posted by policydebategod 8 years ago
policydebategod
oj martinez is the single most ignorant person on debate.org. not only is ur debating bad, ur position bad but ur grammar is even bad. ajmartinez is getting my vote as soon as this debate is over.
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