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gay people should be allowed to marry

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/29/2014 Category: Society
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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debatefox

Pro

gay people should be allowed to marry
IAlwaysWinDebates

Con

NEIN, sie sollten nicht, but in all seriousness gay should not be able to marry, being gay myself I found that life with out marriage is much better. I take it round one is acceptance so for now that is all I shall say.
Debate Round No. 1
debatefox

Pro

debatefox forfeited this round.
IAlwaysWinDebates

Con

I will five him one more chance to respond to the debate.
Debate Round No. 2
debatefox

Pro

sorry I was on vacation with my family no Internet

maybe you don't have the need to get married but some couples do and for people to take away that right just because they don need it is ridiculous.
IAlwaysWinDebates

Con

Now let me put out some cons to marriage.

Con: Your Very Last Lover
One of the cons of marriage is that the person you marry is your last lover except, of course, in the case of infidelity or the death of your spouse. Committing to marriage means committing to one person for your entire life, which means that relationships with other people are out of the question. Although both men and women may see admirable qualities in other people, a relationship with another person is a violation of the marriage contract.

Con: The In-Laws
Dealing with in-laws is a dreaded aspects of marriage for some people. Although some people have wonderful relationships with their spouse's family, others do not enjoy spending time with their in-laws. Whatever the case, in-laws are always going to be in the picture, so not having a good relationship with them will make a marriage difficult.
Sources: http://everydaylife.globalpost.com...

CON Gay Marriage

The institution of marriage has traditionally been defined as between a man and a woman. In the Oct. 15, 1971 decision Baker v. Nelson, the Supreme Court of Minnesota found that "The institution of marriage as a union of man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis." [49]

Allowing gay couples to wed will further weaken the institution of marriage. Traditional marriage is already threatened with high divorce rates (between 40% and 50%) and with 40.6% of babies being born to unmarried mothers in 2008. Allowing same-sex couples to marry would further weaken the institution. [50] [51] As argued by Ryan T. Anderson, William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and a Free Society at The Heritage Foundation, "In recent decades, marriage has been weakened by a revisionist view that is more about adults" desires than children"s needs... Redefining marriage to include same-sex relationships is the culmination of this revisionism, and it would leave emotional intensity as the only thing that sets marriage apart from other bonds." [70]

Gay marriage could potentially lead down a "slippery slope" giving people in polygamous, incestuous, bestial, and other nontraditional relationships the right to marry. [10] Glen Lavy, JD, senior counsel with the Alliance Defense Fund, argued in a May 21, 2008 Los Angeles Times Op-Ed, "The movement for polygamy and polyamory is poised to use the successes of same-sex couples as a springboard for further de-institutionalizing marriage." [11] In April 2013, Slate published a plea for legal polygamy by writer Jillian Keenan: "Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less 'correct' than marriage among three (or four, or six) consenting adults." [71]

People should not have their tax dollars used to support something they believe is wrong. Gay marriage would entitle gay couples to typical marriage benefits including claiming a tax exemption for a spouse, receiving social security payments from a deceased spouse, and coverage by a spouse"s health insurance policy. On Dec. 17, 2009, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the cost to the federal government of extending employment benefits to same-sex domestic partners of certain federal employees (making no mention of additional costs such as Social Security and inheritance taxes) would be $596 million in mandatory spending and $302 million in discretionary spending between 2010 and 2019. [37]

Gay marriage may lead to more children being raised in same-sex households, which are not an optimum environment because children need both a mother and father. Girls who are raised apart from their fathers are reportedly at higher risk for early sexual activity and teenage pregnancy. [52] Children without a mother are deprived of the emotional security and unique advice that mothers provide. An Apr. 2001 study published in American Sociological Review suggesed that children with lesbian or gay parents are more likely to engage in homosexual behavior. [53] In the 1997 book Growing up in a Lesbian Family: Effects on Child Development, Fiona Tasker, PhD, and Susan Golombok, PhD, observed that 25% of sampled young adults raised by lesbian mothers had engaged in a homoerotic relationship, compared to 0% of sampled young adults raised by heterosexual mothers. [13]

Gay marriage will accelerate the assimilation of gays into mainstream heterosexual culture to the detriment of the homosexual community. The gay community has created its own vibrant culture. By reducing the differences in opportunities and experiences between gay and heterosexual people, this unique culture may cease to exist. As M.V. Lee Badgett, PhD summarizes, "marriage means adopting heterosexual forms of family and giving up distinctively gay family forms and perhaps even gay and lesbian culture." [14]

The institution of marriage is sexist and oppressive; it should not be expanded but weakened. Paula Ettelbrick, JD, Professor of Law and Women's Studies, wrote in 1989, "Marriage runs contrary to two of the primary goals of the lesbian and gay movement: the affirmation of gay identity and culture and the validation of many forms of relationships." [15] The leaders of the Gay Liberation Front in New York said in July 1969, "We expose the institution of marriage as one of the most insidious and basic sustainers of the system. The family is the microcosm of oppression." [16]

Same-sex marriage has undermined the institution of marriage in Scandinavia. Sweden began offering same-sex couples benefits in 1987, followed by Denmark in 1989 and Norway in 1993. According to a Feb. 29, 2004 report by Stanley Kurtz, PhD, from 1990 to 2000, Norway's out-of-wedlock birthrate rose from 39% to 50% and Sweden's rose from 47% to 55%. Unmarried parenthood in Denmark rose 25% during the 1990s, and approximately 60% of first born Danish children have unmarried parents. As Kurtz states, "Marriage is slowly dying in Scandinavia." [17]

Marriage is a privilege, not a right. Society can choose to endorse certain types of sexual arrangements and give support in the form of benefits to these arrangements. Marriage was created to allow society to support heterosexual couples in procreation and society can choose not to give the same benefits to same-sex couples. [18]

Marriage should not be extended to same-sex couples because they cannot produce children together. Allowing gay marriage would only further shift the purpose of marriage from producing and raising children to adult gratification. [19]

Marriage is a religious rite between one man and one woman. According to a July 31, 2003 statement from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and approved by Pope John Paul II, marriage "was established by the Creator with its own nature, essential properties and purpose. No ideology can erase from the human spirit the certainty that marriage exists solely between a man and a woman"" [54]

Gay marriage is incompatible with the beliefs, sacred texts, and traditions of many religious groups. The Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church, Islam, United Methodist Church, Southern Baptist Convention, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, National Association of Evangelicals, and American Baptist Churches USA all oppose same-sex marriage. Expanding marriage to include same-sex couples may lead to churches being forced to marry couples and children being taught in school that same-sex marriage is the same as opposite-sex marriage. [12]

Same-sex marriage is not a civil rights issue, and conflating the issue with interracial marriage is misleading. Matthew D. Staver, JD, Dean of the Liberty University School of Law, explained: "The unifying characteristics of the protected classes within the Civil Rights Act of 1964 include (1) a history of longstanding, widespread discrimination, (2) economic disadvantage, and (3) immutable characteristics...
Debate Round No. 3
debatefox

Pro

i have noticed a lot of plagiarism in this peice so not only are you incapable on arguing the argument you have used other arguments and copied and pasted them into this document
my proof go to this website
http://dailykenyannews.blogspot.com...
IAlwaysWinDebates

Con

IAlwaysWinDebates forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
debatefox

Pro

I see that my opponent can't live up to his/her expectations and has forfeited this round
IAlwaysWinDebates

Con

IAlwaysWinDebates forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by IAlwaysWinDebates 2 years ago
IAlwaysWinDebates
@Daltonian I am not sure if you could not tell but, I was joking I do think gay people should have the right to marry.
Posted by Daltonian 2 years ago
Daltonian
What? You don't support your own right to marriage?

Just because you find life outside marriage better, doesn't mean people who don't shouldn't have a chance at happiness.. no?
Posted by Dilara 2 years ago
Dilara
They should be allowed to marry.
Posted by IAlwaysWinDebates 2 years ago
IAlwaysWinDebates
Please Gustav, you don't know me. I fully beleive what I am saying.
Posted by Gustav_Adolf_II 2 years ago
Gustav_Adolf_II
Please forgive my friend IALWAYS WINDEBATES, I can assure you that he is just joking around and is not really a bigot. If you wanted to have a real debate, just repost this one and hope that he doesn't notice you abandoned this version.
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Vote Placed by Cold-Mind 2 years ago
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