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burbachrocks
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girlforgod21
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Started: 3/19/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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burbachrocks

Pro

i think gay should be able to marry because its a free country
girlforgod21

Con

"i think gay should be able to marry because its a free country". Yes, you are right, we do live in a free country. However, when concerning marriage, there are some limitations, as there must be with anything to avoid a chaotic society.

If same-sex marriage was allowed, we would have no basis to oppose polygamy/bigamy (being married to multiple people at once), incest (sexual or marital relations to people who are closely related in blood to you), pedophilia (adult/child marriages or sexual relations), marriage to inanimate objects, or other types of marriage that are commonly frowned upon in America today.

Marriage is described as a union between a man and a woman. Part of the reason for this is the ability to have children takes a man and a woman. Yes, adoption is an option, but it is extremely hard to adopt for a gay couple.

Traditionally, marriage is between a man and a woman. Traditions have upheld the society in which we live for many many years now, why change that?
Debate Round No. 1
burbachrocks

Pro

ya but if gays want to marry then let them let them lve a happy life. have a cousin thats guy and th first year was hard but then i thought that if that makes her happy then let her be happy with the girl she likes.

Mybe if they would let gays walk aund the world without people makeing fun of them then maybe the world would be a more happy place for gay people to live.

Gay peple are just lke us they have feeling they have a life toes fingers hair ll of the stuff a strait person has.they that is different with them is that they like the same gender as them.

i am just beginning with debate so im really bad at this so ya
girlforgod21

Con

Homosexuals have the same chances at happiness as heterosexuals do; the only difference is that homosexuals cannot legally be married in most states. Being a homosexual is a personal choice, and if the person is content with their choice, then they should not have any problem with people occasionally "making fun" of them because they chose to be a homosexual.
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I apologize, burbachrocks, but I see no relevance in bringing up the fact that homosexuals have life, fingers, feelings, hair, toes, etc. Everyone is born with this (well, almost everyone), and the choice to become a homosexual is a personal one. If you would like to expand on this argument, I would be happy to post a rebuttal to it, but at the moment I don't find it relevant.
Debate Round No. 2
burbachrocks

Pro

thank you but it's not a persionall choice it's in there dna i dont knkow how it is but i watched a special t.v show and they said it was in their d.n.a but thank you for takeing your time and debateing wth me . debate with you ater....
girlforgod21

Con

Do you have proof that it is in their DNA, besides that you saw a special TV show that said it was? Because the media doesn't always tell the truth. Someone having a "homosexual gene", or however you would phrase that, in their DNA is something that is greatly disagreed and agreed upon by different people. It is not a proven fact, however, at least not to my knowledge. There have been many disputes on if this is an accurate statement. The only real way to explain it is that it is a personal choice, unless or until someone proves otherwise.
You are welcome for the debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ournamestoolong 7 years ago
ournamestoolong
"Marriage is indeed a religious commitment. I, being a Christian, believe that God created marriage when He created Adam and Eve, and that it was meant to be a beautiful thing between a man and a woman. God actually destroyed two cities, Sodom and Gomorrah, for the cities having homosexual relations.
rangersfootballclub: I don't know if I understood your comment correctly, when you said something along the lines of "just pretend every time he said marriage he said civil partnership or something!". But if I did, then the thing is that he didn't say "civil partnership", he said "marriage" which is completely different."

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Posted by Nail_Bat 7 years ago
Nail_Bat
>> I said that we lose the basis to oppose such things.

I don't think you really understand the "basis" for opposing gay marriage. I'll give you a hint: it's your religion. That's it. There are actual, logical reasons for opposing pedophilia and incest that don't involve religion at all.
Posted by zippo 7 years ago
zippo
"but would you really lend your bedroom to a male cousin and his boyfriend?"

Shouldn't be a big issue. Just line the entire room with plastic.......
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
"have a cousin thats guy and th first year was hard but then i thought that if that makes her happy then let her be happy with the girl she likes"

I can see why you would be sympathetic towards a female cousin and her lesbian lover, but would you really lend your bedroom to a male cousin and his boyfriend?
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
I completely disagree with the contender's arguments. That being said, she presented the stronger case. Sorry burbachrocks.
Posted by TheSkeptic 7 years ago
TheSkeptic
@zippo: When you type a new account, uncheck the boxes. Or perhaps look into privacy settings on your account?

RFD: All points to CON. PRO had bad spelling and grammar, unsubstantiated arguments, and uncited sources.
Posted by zippo 7 years ago
zippo
How do i turn off the automatic emails. Its very annoying im getting an email it seems every few minutes from this debate... Please help It wouldn't be that bad but im getting 2 emails per comment lol.. It seems to be the case for every debate i've ever commented on or even looked at.......... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by girlforgod21 7 years ago
girlforgod21
I didn't say if we let homosexuals marry then we can't deny marriage to pedophiles or the incestuous. We could still "deny" it. I said that we lose the basis to oppose such things. It's sort of like saying to the "bad" kid of the family "You cannot hit your sister", but then saying to the "good" kid "It is perfectly acceptable for you to hit your brother". By letting homosexuals marry, we are setting up a precedent that other people will use to their benefit if they are not legally allowed to marry the person they want to.
Posted by Nail_Bat 7 years ago
Nail_Bat
When it becomes socially acceptable to have sexual relations with a minor or with a member of one's own family, then you can tell me that "If we let homosexuals marry then we can't deny marriage to pedophiles or the incestuous!". Sorry but there is absolutely no chain of reasoning that goes from that premise to that conclusion. Your religion forbids gay marriage, that's the end of the story. I don't know why you people even TRY to argue this, its a matter of faith, not reason.
Posted by girlforgod21 7 years ago
girlforgod21
Marriage is indeed a religious commitment. I, being a Christian, believe that God created marriage when He created Adam and Eve, and that it was meant to be a beautiful thing between a man and a woman. God actually destroyed two cities, Sodom and Gomorrah, for the cities having homosexual relations.
rangersfootballclub: I don't know if I understood your comment correctly, when you said something along the lines of "just pretend every time he said marriage he said civil partnership or something!". But if I did, then the thing is that he didn't say "civil partnership", he said "marriage" which is completely different.
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