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A341
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god exists

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Started: 6/8/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mink204

Pro

Atheists are stupid. They think that god doesn't exist, let me ask you if god does not exist did you mysteriously appear in the world without being created by anyone? Is this not stupidity? I think that god exists. All the Christians, Muslims, Hindus tell me does god exist.
A341

Con

Rebuttal

My opponent doesn't make an argument, simply a series of fallacies punctuated with misconceptions.

Ad Hominem

"Atheists are stupid."

"Is this not stupidity?"

Ad Populum

"All the Christians, Muslims, Hindus tell me does god exist."

Misconceptions

"if god does not exist did you mysteriously appear in the world without being created by anyone?"

We actually know a lot about how we ended up here, we know that 13.798 billion years ago the Universe began (if began is the correct word) to expand [1].

We know that over time atoms began to form from fundamental particles. [2]

After a long long long time the first stars began to form due to gravitational pressure. [2]

These stars formed into clusters called galaxies. [3]

After several billion years a nondescript planet on the edge of a spiral galaxy formed along with a star, after a few billion years life arose, be it through panspermia or some form of abiogenesis on this planet and over several billion years life evolved into many different forms one of them being us. [4]

Argument

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence, neither you or anyone else has been able to present any evidence that stands up to scrutiny, I can go into the many different problems with the definition of god but I don't need to, what I just wrote should be enough.

[1] http://arxiv.org...

[2] http://burro.astr.cwru.edu...

[3] http://abyss.uoregon.edu...

[4] http://www.agiweb.org...
Debate Round No. 1
mink204

Pro

mink204 forfeited this round.
A341

Con

A341 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
mink204

Pro

Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.

Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.

Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.

Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran is from Allah and even accept Islam]

The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.

No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.

We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.

We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe Allah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).

t is easy to find weather god exists or not. You should be the one to find the signs which are easily found.
A341

Con

A341 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by joustfortheround 2 years ago
joustfortheround
Ah but you see evolution is false.... I might even be willing to debate you on the subject if you feel strongly enough on it.... could be fun...... course it would have to be after this week
Posted by patrick967 2 years ago
patrick967
For the first argument by pro, when he states the following:
"Atheists are stupid. They think that god doesn't exist, let me ask you if god does not exist did you mysteriously appear in the world without being created by anyone?"
Well, that's exactly what your god did when he was imagined by humans. "God is eternal" is not an acceptable answer for "Where did god come from?"
Do you have no understanding of evolution? Or anything except the Bible? How can you be so sure that god exists? Evolution does not say that humans just popped into existence. You should really read up on that.
Posted by joustfortheround 2 years ago
joustfortheround
I agree with you, God does exist but you shouldn"t call people stupid it comes across as arrogant and no one really likes that.
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