if goku were to fight superman, superman would be destroyed and the reason i say that is because goku is so powerful he washes his hair with kryptonite and as far as i know superman is kinda dealy allergic to kryptonite
Yes, Goku is very powerful, almost certainly more powerful than superman. What you have to consider, however, is where these characters live. Superman's world largely obeys the laws of physics, aside from a few exceptions (such as Superman's own powers). While a definite measure of a universe "power level" doesn't exist, Superman's world is far closer to reality. In the DBZ world, a much larger number of people can defy the real world's laws of physics in a much more drastic way. Therefore, the "power level" of the DBZ universe is much greater. All things within a universe must obey the laws of physics of that universe, so if one of the characters were to move to a universe with more restrictive laws of physics, they would be weakened. To determine how a character's power scales when moved to a different universe, one needs to determine power level relative to their own universe. The physics of Goku's universe are much less restrictive, as indicated by the fact that many other characters have powers that can match Goku's universe. Relative to the universe, such a high power level isn't nearly as uncommon as it is in Superman's universe, with the only deviations from conventional physics being the abilities of the members of the league of justice. Superman is much more powerful in his universe than Goku is in the DBZ universe. Thus, were the two of them put into the same universe to fight, Superman would out scale Goku on power and win.
yes you are correct but this is not an argument between which is more real this is an argument between who is more powerful and you just said that goku dwarfs superman in power so right now you are being beaten
"Vs." Does not ask who is more powerful, "vs." asks who would win in a fight. For Goku and Superman to fight, they must be in the same universe, therefore they would share one set of laws of physics during the fight. For this to happen, their power must scale as I described in my previous post, as they do not currently exist under the same laws of physics.
you hold a very valid point and if they were to fight they would have to be in the same universe yes but that doesn't mean it isn't possible and if superman were to be in Goku's universe superman would lose and vise versa so in a way you win
Here's the thing. If Superman goes to Goku's universe, his power level won't stay static. In the same way that Goku's power would lessen if he went to a universe with a lower "power level", Superman would become stronger upon going to Goku's universe, and I believe he would be stronger than Goku based on reasoning presented in my first argument.
Anyway, cheers. Nice debating with you.
Reasons for voting decision: Con basically states that superman's power level might be different in Goku's universe. That's not a predictive argument for either side. Pro wins that Goku washes his hair with kryptonite which probably puts superman at a disadvantage.
Reasons for voting decision: the point of the debate is to argue hypothetically who would win in a fight, not whether a fight would ever happen in the first place.... Arguments to pro since con didnt give a real argument
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