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goku vs superman goku wins

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/10/2013 Category: Funny
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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VISUALMoney6

Pro

if goku were to fight superman, superman would be destroyed and the reason i say that is because goku is so powerful he washes his hair with kryptonite and as far as i know superman is kinda dealy allergic to kryptonite
Calcicu

Con

Yes, Goku is very powerful, almost certainly more powerful than superman. What you have to consider, however, is where these characters live. Superman's world largely obeys the laws of physics, aside from a few exceptions (such as Superman's own powers). While a definite measure of a universe "power level" doesn't exist, Superman's world is far closer to reality. In the DBZ world, a much larger number of people can defy the real world's laws of physics in a much more drastic way. Therefore, the "power level" of the DBZ universe is much greater. All things within a universe must obey the laws of physics of that universe, so if one of the characters were to move to a universe with more restrictive laws of physics, they would be weakened. To determine how a character's power scales when moved to a different universe, one needs to determine power level relative to their own universe. The physics of Goku's universe are much less restrictive, as indicated by the fact that many other characters have powers that can match Goku's universe. Relative to the universe, such a high power level isn't nearly as uncommon as it is in Superman's universe, with the only deviations from conventional physics being the abilities of the members of the league of justice. Superman is much more powerful in his universe than Goku is in the DBZ universe. Thus, were the two of them put into the same universe to fight, Superman would out scale Goku on power and win.
Debate Round No. 1
VISUALMoney6

Pro

yes you are correct but this is not an argument between which is more real this is an argument between who is more powerful and you just said that goku dwarfs superman in power so right now you are being beaten
Calcicu

Con

"Vs." Does not ask who is more powerful, "vs." asks who would win in a fight. For Goku and Superman to fight, they must be in the same universe, therefore they would share one set of laws of physics during the fight. For this to happen, their power must scale as I described in my previous post, as they do not currently exist under the same laws of physics.
Debate Round No. 2
VISUALMoney6

Pro

you hold a very valid point and if they were to fight they would have to be in the same universe yes but that doesn't mean it isn't possible and if superman were to be in Goku's universe superman would lose and vise versa so in a way you win
Calcicu

Con

Here's the thing. If Superman goes to Goku's universe, his power level won't stay static. In the same way that Goku's power would lessen if he went to a universe with a lower "power level", Superman would become stronger upon going to Goku's universe, and I believe he would be stronger than Goku based on reasoning presented in my first argument.
Anyway, cheers. Nice debating with you.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Gohan12345 3 years ago
Gohan12345
Just because super man is fast does not mean h will win first of all here are some reasons.
1. Goku would be able to make the spirit bomb and teleport from planet to planet with instant transmission with that superman would not know where Goku is and Goku would have plenty of time to teleport and deliver the spirit bomb
2. Goku has beated people over 1,000,000,000 power lvl
Superman has only defeat robots and human criminals
3. Goku would be able to beat super man before he gets to another place using instant transmission and yes teleportation counts as speed.
4. Goku has more experience then super man we can all say
Posted by peach93 3 years ago
peach93
goku wins because is 10 times more powerful than superman and for example if Goku had kryptonite in his hand and put it near Superman for 4 hours superman will probably die instead goku can resit and he has real power which he aknowledge through time but Superman was born with is strenght but Goku had to learn and suffer for his power and also he has real human power and charisma and he does not have to hide his identity unlike superman which is kind of stupid because you can easily realise that Clark is superman
Posted by VISUALMoney6 3 years ago
VISUALMoney6
thanks for debating with me that is really going to help me in school so thank you for debating with me
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Reasons for voting decision: Con basically states that superman's power level might be different in Goku's universe. That's not a predictive argument for either side. Pro wins that Goku washes his hair with kryptonite which probably puts superman at a disadvantage.
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Reasons for voting decision: the point of the debate is to argue hypothetically who would win in a fight, not whether a fight would ever happen in the first place.... Arguments to pro since con didnt give a real argument