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gravity=(is)weight+force of gravity=down+up=falling+rising

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Started: 9/6/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

difference in the "density" or weight of matter is the force of gravity

a little feather falls more slow then a bowling ball

because there is down there is up, becasue if there isnt down the thing dosnt fall

when the force of gravity applies to an object, up is the cause of Down, when the force of gravity dosnt apply, Down is the cause of down

wind flow goes out at the top of my window, and comes in at the bottom

if a cup cake falls from a tree, how far is it from down?

cause+effect=logic
SFG2344

Con

The force of gravity is not the difference in density or weight of matter, as Pro stated. Instead, the force of gravity between two objects is the product of the gravitational constant, the mass of the first object, the mass of the second object, and the reciprocal of the distance between the two objects.[1]

Pro has stated that a feather moves "more slow" than a bowling ball, due to "down" and "up" of some sort caused by differences in mass. However, it is not a necessary fact that a bowling ball moves faster than a feather. Consider a stationary bowling ball, and a moving feather. The feather is moving faster than the bowling ball. In the context of free fall, a feather on Earth falls more slowly than a bowling ball due to the force of air resistance. However, this is not due to the mass of the two objects. This can be proven experimentally by dropping two objects of varying mass at the same time in absence of significant air resistance, such as on the Moon. This experiment was performed on the Apollo 15 mission to the moon, and confirmed that gravity is not due to mass and the difference is fall rate on Earth is therefore due to air resistance.[2]

Sources:
1. http://www.physicsclassroom.com...
2. https://www.youtube.com...
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

a rock i throw into the air must reach a point of 0 gravity application for it to come back down, like a point of not having impact force

on earth, an object i let go of that dosnt fall means it has no weight, you cant weigh it on a mechanical scale if its not going down, like a little feather in the wind

down is weight, falling is down, not up.

if the little feather turned into metal mid air it would fall.

weight=force of gravity+down
force of gravity=weight+up

if it dosnt go down it has no weight, or the force of gravity dosnt apply

on the moon there is hardly any difference in weight, and without weight an object dosnt fall at all, and the further an object falls on earth is the more weight it has

the more weight is the more force of gravity, becasue the application of the force of gravity ceases to apply at no weight, no up and down for an object
SFG2344

Con

Weight is defined as the force of gravity acting on an object. That is to say, it is product of the mass of an object and the acceleration due to gravity. On the surface of Earth, weight is approximately 10m N for an object of mass m.

If an object at rest does not move when you let go of it, i.e. if it has no acceleration, we learn from Newtonian mechanics that that is due to a lack of net force on the object. However, it is entirely possible that although an object has no net force acting on it, it has a gravitational force acting on it (a weight) that is balanced by another force. For example, I have a computer on my desk. My computer has a weight, that is, a gravitational force acting upon it, however the normal force from the table cancels out the gravitational force causing my computer to stay where it is.

"Down" and "up" are directions, not forces in physics.

The reason a feather in the wind stays in the air is because the wind is acting as a force against gravity. A feather is very susceptible to air resistance and the force exerted by the wind. Metal of the same mass, density, size, and shape of a feather would behave exactly like a feather when in free fall or when blowing in the wind.

Any time you have two objects of mass, there is a force of gravity between them in accordance to the law of universal gravitation I described previously. If there is no acceleration, it must be that some other force or collection of forces is balancing out the gravitational force. If the object has acceleration contrary to that given to it by the force of gravity, it must be that some other force or collection of forces is stronger than the force of gravity.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

weight still applies when an object dosnt accelerate, like laying on the ground

if it dosnt go down, it has no weight, weight is down or falling

there is no down without weight, if a cup cake falls from a tree, how far is it from down?

a metal feather falls..
SFG2344

Con

As I previously stated, all objects with mass have a weight. Weight, if balanced by another force, will not produce an acceleration. However, that does not mean that an object has no weight. All objects, even if stationary, have weight.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

therfore, weight isnt acceleration..
SFG2344

Con

SFG2344 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
SFG2344

Con

SFG2344 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by DATXDUDE 1 year ago
DATXDUDE
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
weight attracts weight, but there is so much weight below me that i simply dont attract to other objects even if i get really close to them*
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
hm, weight attracts weight, but there is so much weight below me that i dont attract to other objects even if i get really close to them
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
the more weight is the more force of gravity application for an object
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
or nah..
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
so OR*
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
hmm, OR the application of the force of gravity begins to apply at no weight, no up and down for an object
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
hm i might be confusing air resistance with force of gravity
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
on earth, an object not falling means it has no weight, you cant weigh it on a mechanical scale if its not going down* like a little feather in the wind
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
an object on earth not going down means it has no weight, you cant weigh it on a mechanical scale if its not going down*
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Vote Placed by Midnight1131 1 year ago
Midnight1131
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