The Instigator
natoast
Pro (for)
Losing
1 Points
The Contender
RationalMadman
Con (against)
Winning
23 Points

having sex is wrong

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RationalMadman
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/9/2012 Category: Society
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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natoast

Pro

Here is the argument that I used to come to this conclusion:
1) Sex can create babies.
2) Babies grow up to be people.
3) Most people are stupid.
4) Stupidity can lead to things like prejudices, violence, and general misinformation.
therefore, with this knowledge, it is clearly not morally permissible to have unprotected sex.
RationalMadman

Con

Using your system of numbering I all lay out my case:

1) Infertile people can have sex.
2) Fertile people who have sex might do so at the perfect mentrual moment and not concieve children.
3) All mammals have sex, thus it is clearly an inehrent undeniable part of our nature which is unhealthy to ignore.
4) Sex can feel so good, thus not having it is denying ultimate pleasure.
5) Sex is the only reason that pro was born.
Debate Round No. 1
natoast

Pro

In response to your arguments, as they where written:
1)granted.
2) fertile people might not have a child, but they still might. And allowing any chance of more stupid people to come into excistence is to great a risk.
3) mammals kill each other, rape each other, and sometimes practice cannibalism. I wouldn't consider them a shining example of moral perfection.
4) Still, stupid people are more likely to act on what feels good then what is logical, making it even more likely that more stupid people will be born.
5) I'm stupid just like everyone else, so this only reinforces my original point.
RationalMadman

Con

1) I win
2) If everyone is stupid, no-one is
3) Failed to counter moral nihilism
4) Look at number 2
5) Pro is saying pro shouldn't have come into existence, indirectly forfeiting the debate
Debate Round No. 2
natoast

Pro

1) Just because it's not always immoral doesn't mean it's always moral.
2) a. I'm sure that there's someone out there who knows what their talking about, b, the results that come from stupidity aren't relative, even if stupidity is. maybe the human race is immoral overall.
3) I meant that proving something is part of our nature doesn't prove it's moral.
4) 'look at number 2'
5) My existence isn't relevant. anyways, your stupid, same as me.

by the way, this was a troll debate more or less.
RationalMadman

Con

1) If it's sometimes moral, it is not always wrong meaning you fail to meet your BOP as pro but I have diminished BOP as con to this since I just have to disprove it being 'wrong'
2) Stupidity is relative because IQ of 100 is always in middle of normal distribution. http://www.iqtestexperts.com... Sorry but you lose that.
3) Still failed to counter moral nihilism
4) Look at number 2
5) Insults me and can't deny that he denied himself being born being right meaning pro shouldn't have existed in first place.

:) I win.

He admits to being a troll, conduct mark lost for also calling me stupid I think definitely!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by natoast 4 years ago
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I do admit to being a troll I guess, so you can have all the votes. Vote con!
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Posted by RationalMadman 4 years ago
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Posted by wrichcirw 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: LOL awesome, funny, and also slightly interesting. made me think a little :D
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Reasons for voting decision: even cons extremely weak arguments were enough to completely dismantle the pro's arguments.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro says the human race is basically evil therefore nobody should be born
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Reasons for voting decision: epic fail for pro
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Reasons for voting decision: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM&list=FLVVXsM2q8NCylXc5AxAm4uA&index=4