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fallout.creature
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vmpire321
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hitler was a very smart man

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vmpire321
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/15/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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fallout.creature

Pro

the reason I believe that Hitler is a great speaker is that he talked millions of people into believing that all Jews must die and then he created one of the best military strategy that almost won him the war
vmpire321

Con

Hmm. Not much to define.
"very smart man" means someone who is surpasses others in intelligence by a great level, a genius.

==Rebuttals==
PRO claims that Hitler is smart, because he managed to convince the people of Germany to hate Jews.
1) It wasn't actually Hitler that convinced the public, but rather Dr Joseph Goebbels, who was in charge of propaganda. He was also knows as the "Minister of Propaganda and National Enlightenment". Goebbels was the main reason why the people of Germany were tricked. He micromanaged what the public saw, and made sure nothing harmful about the Nazis were shown, and tried to increase public support for Nazis.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...


PRO also mentions that Hitler was a great military strategist.
1) Hitler didn't trust his generals, and even called them cowardly or stupid. Are these the actions of a brilliant war leader?
2)He tended to reject any information that did not fit with his own wildly innacurate ideas. Furthermore he relied on his instinct, and believed that he could win the war through sheer will.
3) He took personal command too far. Near the end of the war, Hitler ordered that no unit could move without direct permission, and he demanded reports on every armoured vehicle and position that he lost. Good opportunities were lost, and great dangers were unnoticed, due to these issues. Furthermore, on-the-scene commanders were held back by Hitler.
4) Hitler also often put off big decisions. For example, in 1943, Hitler was unable to make up his mind about an attack at Kursk, which, in the end, delayed the attack from April to July. By then, the Soviets were already prepared for the attack.
5) Hitler was also considered a nuisiance in military operations. He forced everyone to listen to him, and it was his choices that resulted in the loss of the war. He began attack Britian, with no plans on how he was going to win the war. He also started a war agaisnt the Soviet Union, where he had no back-up plan and assumed that he was going to have an easy win.

All of this section came from this source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...;


==Arguments==


1) Hitler was forced to drop out of high school due to his failure in academics.
http://library.thinkquest.org...

2) In Vienna, he tried to get into the Viennese Academy of Fine Arts. However, the school believed that Hitler lacked any talent in drawing and in art.
http://library.thinkquest.org...

3) Hitler was believed to have Parkinson's disease. Around 40% those infected with this disease lose decision-making functions and become mentally inflexible. His disease also made him slow to respond to issues.
http://www.fpp.co.uk...

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That's all I'll put for now... :D
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Debate Round No. 1
fallout.creature

Pro

fallout.creature forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Con

Extend my arguments...
Debate Round No. 2
fallout.creature

Pro

fallout.creature forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Con

Seeing that my opponent hasn't posted ANY arguments, I believe that at the very least this should be a tie. Vote CON.

...and extend my arguments...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by caveat 5 years ago
caveat
Interesting.
Posted by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
he was smart, but insane, and an @$$hole. So smart yes, someone I would like no.
Posted by OberHerr 5 years ago
OberHerr
TBH, he really was, though he was insane also.....though insanity tends to be a good thing in times of crisis, look at General Sherman, or Patton.
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
LOL IM In XD
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
hmm LOL
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Vote Placed by renji_abarai 5 years ago
renji_abarai
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro foreited every round so my votes go to Con.
Vote Placed by airmax1227 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con actually debated and Pro FF'd each round.