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homosexuality is a mental disorder

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Started: 4/5/2010 Category: Health
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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twin

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Homosexuality is a mental disorder for several reasons, the most previlant reasons I will use is that following the theory of evolution, it makes no logical sense for one of the same sex to be attracted to another person of the same sex. Another key point is the definition of a mental disorder - "A mental disorder or mental illness is a psychological or behavioral pattern that occurs in an individual and is thought to cause distress or disability that is not expected as part of normal development or culture."
dollydo

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You claim that homosexuality is a mental disorder, following that it does not fit the "theory of evolution, and therefore makes no logical sense for one of the same sex to be attracted to another person of the same sex."

To make it clear, homosexuality, whether or not a mental disorder, does not follow that it has to fit the "theory of evolution," nor does it have to make any "logical sense." You are claiming:

1.Homosexuality is a mental disorder.
2.Homosexuality does not fit the "theory of evolution."
3.Homosexuality makes no "logical sense."

I will begin by refuting the first claim,

"Mental disorder: (n) a mental or bodily condition marked by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, and emotions, to seriously impair the normal psychological functioning of the individual-called mental illness." Merriam-Webster.com

I believe the definition you provided to be inadequate, so I have provided my own.

In the 19th century, homosexuality was considered pathological. This view stems from religious persecution, and intolerance, during the time. Still today homosexuality carries with it the stigma that it is an immoral act, a mental disorder, or as you would say "makes no logical sense." During the 20th century, Sigmund Freud and Havelock Ellis recognized that homosexuality was not pathological, but in fact "inborn." Ellis (1901) argued that homosexuality was inborn and therefore not immoral, that it was not a disease, and that many homosexuals made outstanding contributions to society (Robinson, 1976).

During the 1940's and 1950's much effort was made in disproving this stigmatized view of homosexuality. Alfred Kinsey's studies of homosexuality shifted the prevailing view that homosexuality was pathological to a view that homosexuality is based on a "normal variant of human sexuality." The "Kinsey Reports" found that 37% of males and 13% of females had at least some overt homosexual experience to orgasm. Other studies during this time, found that homosexuality prevailed in all cultures, and was also found among many non-human species. From these studies came the conclusion that homosexuality, is in fact, a "natural" and "inborn" occurrence, and therefore should not be classified as a mental disorder.

Another, more recent study, was performed by Evelyn Hooker. Evelyn Hooker also disagreed with the prevailing view that homosexuality was pathological. She successfully disproved this claim by showing that there is no apparent difference between a heterosexual or a homosexual, in regards to their psychological adjustments. In a study conducted by Evelyn Hooker and her colleagues, she supplied a group of homosexuals and put them up for evaluation, against unaware psychiatrists. After extensive evaluation these patients were found to have no apparent differences than any other heterosexual.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). After extensive research of homosexuality, for the better part of three decades, APA found that because homosexuality did not "impair" patients in any way, nor caused patients inability to function and/or perform as active members in society, APA board of directors concluded that homosexuality was, in fact, not a mental disorder. Homosexuality has been removed from the DSM since 1973 to present day.

Hundreds of studies have been published to disprove the claim that homosexuality is a mental disorder. I believe that we need to stop stigmatizing homosexuality, through religious beliefs, intolerance, and persecution. Because homosexuality is not the "norm," it does not make it wrong, nor does it make it still acceptable to deem it as a mental disorder. It obviously is not classified a mental disorder by the APA. Nor classified a disorder in the DSM.

I have supplied ample evidence to disprove the claim that homosexuality is a mental disorder. Thus concluding that homosexuality is not pathological, but in fact, "natural" and/or "inborn."
Debate Round No. 1
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by yayawhatever 6 years ago
yayawhatever
If a mental disorder is a psy pattern that differs from the norm, then do introverts have a mental disorder? what about left handed people?
Posted by dollydo 6 years ago
dollydo
This was only one factor that supports my claim. This was one of the earliest claims, and of course it lies on shaky ground. But this earlier theory, supports later evidence, which concludes that a gay person is not "impaired," therefore, not mentally disabled. It is true that some people with mental disorders have "contributed to society." I never argued against that. I felt like these earlier theories required brief attention before I moved onto a stronger case.
Posted by Blatzo 6 years ago
Blatzo
The irony here is the argument trying to move away from stigmatizing homosexuality yet both sides of the argument place a stigma on those suffering with a mental disability. Paraphrasing but as part of the rebuttal the line "many homosexuals have done great things."

As have many people with mental disorders
Posted by Puck 6 years ago
Puck
"A mental disorder is, by definition, a psychological pattern that differs from the norm."

Not the exclusive component of however. Impairment is generally a key selection feature for being deemed a disorder - otherwise we'd be calling red hair a physical disorder. :P Ranga jokes excluded of course. :D
Posted by dollydo 6 years ago
dollydo
Kinesis states, "A mental disorder is, by definition, a psychological pattern that differs from the norm."

This statement is not true. For homosexuality to be deemed a mental disorder, by the definition, it has to "impair" a persons psychological pattern that "differs from the norm." Studies have proved that there is no impairment in a persons physical functioning that differs from that of a heterosexual person. I can find many situations that are not the norm in society, this does not mean that they should be considered "mental disorders." Murder is not the norm, that doesn't mean that all perpetrators are "mentally disabled." Unless, of course, examination concludes that the perpetrator was in some way impaired. One would have to prove that homosexuals are impaired, more so than the average person, to conclude that homosexuality is a mental disorder.
Posted by Kinesis 6 years ago
Kinesis
Now that I read it, it seems a bit odd, considering dolly devoted a fair amount of her round demonstrating that homosexual behaviour IS the norm.
Posted by Kinesis 6 years ago
Kinesis
I wasn't taking sides...just pointing out an error. In fact, your round is much worse - implying there are no evolutionary models that explain gay behaviour, which is patently untrue.
Posted by twin 6 years ago
twin
Thanks kinesis =)
Posted by Kinesis 6 years ago
Kinesis
'Because homosexuality is not the "norm," it does not make it wrong, nor does it make it still acceptable to deem it as a mental disorder'

A mental disorder is, by definition, a psychological pattern that differs from the norm.
Posted by twin 6 years ago
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