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# how old is the universe?

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 9/12/2015 Category: Science Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 1,486 times Debate No: 79652
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 Con In this debate we Wil be discussing how old the universe is, I am going to debate an atheist. Atheists believe that the universe is 14 billion years old, scientists came to this hypothesis by determining the nuclear deterioration of stars, pretty solid, there's just one problem, there's no control. Now right about now you're probably saying "What kind of whack job "scientist" publishes his findings with out a control scenario?" The answer is, an atheist who has an axe to grind. Hope some one accepts.Report this Argument Pro I accept.Report this Argument Con Thank you, my arguments are above. Also, cmb could come from anything, and most likely all comes from an infinite many small sources such as stars.Report this Argument Pro Age may only be a number, but when it comes to the age of the universe, it's a pretty important one. According to research, the universe is approximately 13.8 billion years old. How did scientists determine how many candles to put on the universe's birthday cake? They can determine the age of the universe using two different methods: by studying the oldest objects within the universe and measuring how fast it is expanding. Age limits The universe cannot be younger than the objects contained inside of it. By determining the ages of the oldest stars, scientists are able to put a limit on the age. The life cycle of a star is based on its mass. More massive stars burn faster than their lower-mass siblings. A star 10 times as massive as the sun will burn through its fuel supply in 20 million years, while a star with half the sun's mass will last more than 20 billion years. The mass also affects the brightness, or luminosity, of a star; more massive stars are brighter. [Related: The Brightest Stars: Luminosity & Magnitude] Dense collections of stars known as globular clusters have similar characteristics. The oldest known globular clusters have stars with ages between 11 and 18 billion years old. The wide range comes from problems in pinpointing the distances to the clusters, which affects estimates of brightness and thus mass. If the cluster is farther away than scientists have measured, the stars would be brighter, thus more massive, thus younger than calculated. The uncertainty still creates a limit to the age of the universe; it must be at least 11 billion years old. It can be older, but not younger.ConclusionThe universe is 13.8 billion years old.http://www.space.com... Report this Argument Con Expansion is not constant, they cannot. And no there is no control, I mentioned this earlier.Report this Argument Pro I guess that is his rebuttal. Now I will go to my main arguments, saying why he is wrong and I am right. 1. Con did not say how old he thought the earth was, and only rebutted my side and did not support his side. This is the history of the universe. As you can see it was a long time the universe was made or born.Look at many books. They all say that the universe is 12 to 16 billion yearsold. The interent is for facts. Please Vote for Pro!!! Report this Argument
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Posted by whiteflame 2 years ago
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3 points to Pro (Arguments). Con incorrectly applies attributes to atheists that is wrong. Hayd has basically said all I would have said.

[*Reason for removal*] (1) This doesn't explain the decision. Merely stating one thing that the voter perceives as faulty in Con's argument is insufficient for analyzing the debate, especially as it doesn't regard what is faulty and why it matters to the debate as a whole. (2) Voters must produce their own independent reasoning for why they decided to vote for a given side. By stating that a separate RFD "basically said" all he "would have said", this voter doesn't show that he has read the debate or comprehended it, and has not provided independent feedback to the debaters.
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Posted by harrytruman 2 years ago
My debate is that it is around 300,000 to 3,000,000 years.
Posted by mashed-potatoes 2 years ago
how long do you think?
Posted by harrytruman 2 years ago
Radiation came from all the super no as actually, radiation could come from anywhere not just a big bang that needs an ignition (God).
Posted by Surrealism 2 years ago
Actually the most accurate measurements of the age of the universe come from WMAP's measurement of the CMB.
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