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kenech18
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JustinPast
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how the soviets gave communism a bad name

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Started: 4/1/2017 Category: Politics
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kenech18

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the soviets gave communism a bad name, communism was built based on an ideology were by all people are equal and are all friends" no poor, no rich, no discrimination just pure unity of the people, unfortunately this meaning was interpreted wrongly by the soviets which gave communism a bad name, communism is the best system in the world, capitalism sucks the living life out of a man right from when his born till when, his dead all to favour some group of individuals, but communism empowers all and wealth is shared equally amongst everyone, in capitalism the wealth of the world is owned by 1% of the people
JustinPast

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The following rules are from the "Communist Manifesto", written by Karl Marx. (There are ten, but I shall review the first five).
This is going to mostly rely on a heave of philosophical remedy, since communism and capitalism are just ways to view functions of society. On the contrary, historical examples and economic realities are just as potent to what I previously claimed. (All three are valid arguments and may be imposed sometime later).

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Fredric Nietzsche is by no means a capitalist, but almost certainly would despise institutions that prevent man from creating a self-evident sense of identity. Nietzsche in "The Anti-Christ" continuously argues that the Christian ideology sets examples and virtues that go against the nature of man. By not letting people seek their own experiences and therefore, private thought, one encounters a lack of innovation.
While communism seeks to have good intentions, the many different branches and adaptions made from its central idea ultimately separate the original cause from its former self. While attempting to create a utopia that provides complete freedom, it becomes a mess of poor-equality. Capitalism on the other hand, seemingly promotes variety and competition among each other. A communist would probably see this as an otherwise disgust, since Mutual Aid (referencing "Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution) would provide the highest chance of survival. Competition, in Richard Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene" is also a productive way to ensure the survival of the species most willing to survive. By stealing the food in the shed from the rest of the tribe, the superior genes are passed onto superior offspring. That may sound rather evil, but acknowledge that America's capitalism has provided mutual aid in the form of mutual opportunity. While America may not be the pinnacle of education among ranks, there is certainly the chance to gain rank. Personally, I believe the government should focus more on letting people decide their futures instead of being told their fates. The most powerful institution is thought, and therefore, the public library. In such a place, one can learn physics, of literature, philosophy, economics, and maths. But why force anyone to do anything if they have absolutely no motivation for it? Said motivation should have been crippled by competition, and that roots out the weak, or promotes the weak to become the powerful. It is not about hand holding through life that provides successful government, it is about providing the choice to abide by so.
Russia does indeed have geographical issues, but the lack of a capability to allow others to project themselves onto independent resources causes a lack of effort. Tax revenue falls as there is less businesses to tax from, so the communist budget naturally shrinks until it can no longer protect itself. Overly taxing discourages investment, discourages variety, and does not promote competition.
Man is born free by nature, but by government, he remains in chains.
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