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human laws were elevated by Moses to the law of God, and adds to discrediting OTestament Law

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Started: 6/27/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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dairygirl4u2c

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human laws were elevated by Moses to the law of God, and adds to discrediting OTestament Law

here is an example.

Matthew 19:8 "Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning."

if what Moses taught was not the law of God, according to Jesus, doesn't that mean he elevated human law to the point of God's law? and what are we to think about OTestament laws when we have such nonsense?
Truth_seeker

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The law of Moses came directly from God.

Jesus was simply pointing out how humanity was before the fall
Debate Round No. 1
dairygirl4u2c

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i showed that Jesus said that Moses allowed for divorce. this was part of Mosaic law, the law that was said to come from God. if we accept that it came from God, how can it be that God would be for or even allow divorce, but then later be gainst it? but it doesn't look like GOd allowed for divorce. most plainly, it was moses who elevated the heart of men to the laws of God. mosaic law was treated, even by Jesus, as the law of God.
Truth_seeker

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"how can it be that God would be for or even allow divorce, but then later be gainst it?"

He wasn't against it, Jesus pointed to the original ideal purpose for marriage and that it wasn't intended for divorce, but because sometimes, relationships cease to work, divorce is permitted.
Debate Round No. 2
dairygirl4u2c

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no he was for it, hten he was against it. and i'm asking why he would be later against it. obviously it's said divorce is wrong now. and moses said it was okay then.

your answer turns God's law into practical approachings of situations, instead of moral principals approachings. marriage is wrong, but since it does't work, we can allow it. or, since we allow it for practical purposes, it's not wrong?

this is all arbitrary, and or unprincipaled, and contadictory.
Truth_seeker

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"no he was for it, hten he was against it. and i'm asking why he would be later against it. obviously it's said divorce is wrong now. and moses said it was okay then."

V. 9 "9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery."

He clearly wasn't against it as he defines the merits for divorce: sexual immorality.
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