The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
Gaming_Debater
Con (against)
Winning
4 Points

i determine where logic begins and ends

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Gaming_Debater
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/27/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 697 times Debate No: 65933
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (17)
Votes (1)

 

vi_spex

Pro

cause+effect=logic

the wind caused an apple to fall from a tree, the effect is the fall, the effect is the impact, the effect is the cause, the effect is the apple is no longer on the tree, the effect is the apple didn't get picked as it lay there to long and got worms in it
Gaming_Debater

Con

"the wind caused an apple to fall from a tree, the effect is the fall, the effect is the impact, the effect is the cause, the effect is the apple is no longer on the tree, the effect is the apple didn't get picked as it lay there to long and got worms in it"

This does not fulfill Pro's burden of proof as there is no telling for sure if he, in fact, thought this. Even if he did, there is no proof that he decided this.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

I wrote it
Gaming_Debater

Con

"I wrote it."

not proof of anything as someone may have written it before him.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

i remember i wrote it, so that is the truth, and true is now
Gaming_Debater

Con

"i remember i wrote it, so that is the truth, and true is now"

This is circular reasoning. Pro is including his conclusion in his premises. His argument is:

P1) If I write something, it is the truth
P2) I wrote X statement
C1) Therefore I determine where logic begins and ends.
C2) Therefore X statement is true


Each line in this argument is simply a restatement of the previous one. His statement "true is now" is also a red herring.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

i remember writing it, that is the truth, and true is now, physical experience only happens now, only now is matter
Gaming_Debater

Con

"i remember writing it, that is the truth, and true is now..."

This is only a restatement of what my opponent said in round 3. I already criticized this claim and pro did not defend it at all.


"physical experience only happens now, only now is matter"

This statement is just another red herring.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

read what i wrote
Gaming_Debater

Con

"read what I wrote"

I find the above command to be humorous and absolutely ridiculous. I read what you wrote in round 1 if that's what you mean but showed that it does not prove your case. Everything else you wrote, I debunked no problem. You are evidently either:

1. A troll
2. A sore loser
3. In need of mental help
4. Both 2 and 3


Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
17 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by Gaming_Debater 2 years ago
Gaming_Debater
That's not a good reason and how is it relevant to his resolution?
Posted by ShadowHawk555 2 years ago
ShadowHawk555
His causal agent comment
Posted by Gaming_Debater 2 years ago
Gaming_Debater
@ ShadowHawk: on what grounds?
Posted by ShadowHawk555 2 years ago
ShadowHawk555
This time I actually agree with pro
Posted by Gaming_Debater 2 years ago
Gaming_Debater
wtf?
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
I am a causal agent
Posted by Gaming_Debater 2 years ago
Gaming_Debater
What's that got to do with it.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
intent=cause
random=natural cause
Posted by Gaming_Debater 2 years ago
Gaming_Debater
An action is not logic. I read the argument.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
cause and effect might have no beginning and end, but there are causes and effects :)

read the argument

i don't determine cause and effect, but i determine where it beings and ends

i determine why i punch you, like i determine were the cause of the apple falling BEGIN, and eternal chain
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by Jzyehoshua 2 years ago
Jzyehoshua
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Reasons for voting decision: Con had logic, Pro had gibberish.