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iNVOLVEMENT IN SPORRTS

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/30/2011 Category: Sports
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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van114

Pro

Involvements in sports help keep you on the healthy side and keep your body in shape. According to the University of Arkansas for medical sciences 86% of people who participate in sports will have a healthier lifestyle and increases their chance of being a healthier adult. Learning to play sports help you deal with adversity, errors and difficult decisions. According to play60.com children and adult needs to get out and get going for at least 60 minute a day. This is a true testimony from a one of boxing well known who life changes forever after his first year of playing sports. His name is Bernard Hopkins and this is what he said this during his interview with espn reporter "Playing sports as a kid, I never dreamed I was learning more than how to dribble, catch, and score. Winning was everything. What else could be more important to a dirty faced ten-year-old boy? But, if winning was everything, it certainly didn't happen every time, and my most difficult lesson began with learning how to lose. As I look back on those days, I find that there is a greater purpose for the many years I spent dribbling, catching, and scoring, for after many defeats, I now understand that playing organized sports has served to teach me the more valuable lessons of life; the lessons of respect, teamwork, discipline, and perseverance."
daley

Con

Pro would have us believe that people who engage in sports are healthier than those who don't! This is a myth. Any person who eats a well balanced diet, exercises regularly, and doesn't engage in unhealthy practices such as abusing substances to a point that they are harmful to the body, will be just as healthy or healthier than a person who engages in sports. Just because the University of Arkansas claims something doesn't make it true. Sports stars are not healthy because of playing sports alone, but rather, they have to follow a certain diet according to the sport they play, and avoid unhealthy practices etc. It's a combination of factors that makes one healthy, and we can have a combination that includes no sports.

Take for example moderate alcohol use versus basketball:

(1) A Harvard study found the risk of death from all causes to be 21 – 28 % lower among men who drank alcohol moderately compared to abstainers. Can Pro show me one medical study where playing basketball or any other sport reduced the risk of death from all causes to the same or greater degree? (Camargo, C.A. et al. Prospective study of moderate alcohol consumption and mortality in US male physicians. Archives of Internal Medicine, 1997, pp. 157, 79-85) So we need not play sports to achieve good health, nor are sports people more healthy than other people who live healthy lives without sports.

The fact is one can stay totally healthy without any sports (swimming, racing, cricket). And actually, the classical idea of sport is a competition, an ambition for more fitness or muscular body.We definitely need some motion. However the medically needed movement dose is easily reached by some daily activities: 187 min dish-washing or 172 min caring shopping bags home burns same amount of calories as 43 min of intensive swim training. We do not really need much to keep us fit!

The famous College Alumni Health Study (1960) says any kind of motion is good, as soon as our pulse speeds up and the breath gets deeper. In a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, Slentz (physiologist at Duke University medical center) and his colleagues looked at whether cardiovascular exercise could increase cholesterol: Simply jogging 20 miles a week elevates the larger HDL by 19 percent. Many other studies show that even a little motion is already quite significant for the human body and there is no need to exaggerate.

And some more facts:
• even soft swimming has impact on knee joint and intervertibral discs
• regular swimming escalates the Asthma risk to 50% – almost same for running and skiing
• the lungs of children that regularly swim are similarly damaged as smoker-lungs
• more than 45 min sport in a week increases miscarriage chances by pregnant women in the first 17 weeks

The point I wanted to make here is that in the case of fitness and sport we should really have a clear head and listen to the feedback of our body.

Can competitive sports be unhealthy? First there is the possibility of physical injury in a sport. Some sports injuries can be repeated with disastrous results. People have become permanently disabled or have even died as a result of injuries received in a competitive sport. And I'm not talking about race car driving. I'm talking about boxing, football, and a ton of other sports. Competitive sports YOU probably participate in. There is also the possibility of psychological difficulty stemming from obsession with or over-commitment in competitive sports. We've seen that theme countless times on television and at the movies, haven't we? Competitive sports pose a risk to our physical and mental health in many ways.

Pro argues that playing sports teaches us respect, teamwork, discipline, and perseverance; as if those same qualities cannot be learnt apart from joining a sports team. No one in my family has been involved in sports, and yet we know about team work cause we all go to work and have to work well even with people we don't like, and we still get the job done well. Does not playing sports make you undisciplined? Will Pro try to tell us that all people who don't play sports are not disciplined for this very reason? None of these qualities are really taught by the sports themselves, but are brought into the sport by the players. No sport teaches you perseverance. This is something you choose to do, or not to do (and drop out of the team) because of your own personal background. Pro has not proved that sports teaches ethics or morality. Many players on many teams in many different sports are very unethical, and do not have team spirit at all despite being in sports for many years. Many of them don't care about the team, but about showing off how good they are; and it is only their ability to make scores that their coaches bare with their prideful spirit. Anyone reading this debate knows in their heart of hearts this is the truth. So I don't think Pro has made a good case for sports. Many children get a proper parenting that helps them develop all the respect, teamwork, discipline, and perseverance they need without every joining a team for sports. Maybe music will be their thing, or medicine; it doesn't make them unhealthy of unethical.

I look forward to Pro's rebuttal.
Debate Round No. 1
van114

Pro

How often have you read a help wanted and where the employer wants a "team player"? Or a candidate that "works well with others"? Well I see it al the time. How much more valuable are you as an employee when you can put differences aside and get the job done? Sport teaches you teamwork, help encourage a healthy life style and promote self esteem. Encouraging your self to learn and play sports help you become a better person. With today's wealth of video games and increasing computer literacy, daily physical activity is often times forgotten. Trying new things never hurt. Getting involved in sports may just be a change in your life.
daley

Con

"How often have you read a help wanted and where the employer wants a "team player"? Or a candidate that "works well with others"? Well I see it al the time."

So the job doesn't teach the person to be a team player, they already have to have "team spirit" and bring that to the table to qualify them for the job. Same with sports. Football doesn't teach team spirit; u need to have it and bring it into the team. Those that dont display it over a certain period get fired.

"How much more valuable are you as an employee when you can put differences aside and get the job done?"

The job doesn't teach u to put aside ur differences. Its just a choice you make based on your previous morality, upbringing, religion, or social conditioning.

"Sport teaches you teamwork, help encourage a healthy life style and promote self esteem."

Claiming that it does doen't PROVE that it does. This is merely an assertion without proof. How does sports teach you a healthly lifestyle? Do football teams have a manual which says to "avoid smoking tobacco, don't do heroine, don't use greasy foods, exercise twice a day?" Pro never quotes any official writing connected to any particular sport to show us the health requirements set out under each sport, so he's merely blowing wind here. No, sports encourages no such thing.

"Encouraging your self to learn and play sports help you become a better person."

A better person? What is a "better" person? Does more fit mean better? Would Adolf Hitler been a "better" person if he was more fit? If he excercised regularly and ate plenty of greenvegetables would that make him a better man after the holocaust? Pro is now confusing being healthy with being moral. A healthy man who tortures and kills millions of innocent people isn't any better than a sick patient dying of terminal cancer. Plenty of sports stars are horrible husbands and fathers. Tiger Woods couldn't even hold onto his wife, but cheated on her with other women. Playing baseball doesn't make people honest, or faithful, and therefore do not help them become better individuals.

"With today's wealth of video games and increasing computer literacy, daily physical activity is often times forgotten. Trying new things never hurt. Getting involved in sports may just be a change in your life."

Pro just asserts without proof, and made no rebuttal to my points made in round one, while I replied to all of his. He was unable to answer my rebuttal to his initial argument, so vote Con.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by van114 5 years ago
van114
Don't just read the topic and make conclusion.
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Reasons for voting decision: Decent opening by Pro, but crushing first response by daley and Pro concedes all arguments 6:1
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Reasons for voting decision: iNVOLVEMENT IN SPORRTS
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Reasons for voting decision: This debate was in desperate need of a resolution that clarified the case each participant was trying to make. Yet Con still made a very good argument to which Pro had no rebuttals. Pro loses conduct for dropping arguments and for seemingly giving up. Pro Loses SG for obvious mistakes in the resolution.
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Reasons for voting decision: pro dropped all arguments and didn't even argue.