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imagination is false, and belief is imaginary

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Started: 7/14/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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there is no true or honest point to make beyond personal experience

belief=be lie, as i dont know is true

i dont know=i have to imagine it=i can at best imagine it=maybe

my personal physical experience of now is everything, and anywhere beyond that is the reflection of nothing


Belief does not mean Be= lie
Also Belief means that a feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true.
Belief is not false because everyone has beliefs but you should say it is not true. The debate is saying it is false but this is a very different situation, false and not true.
Debate Round No. 1


but how is believing the claim true if its true i dont know?

belief is doubt, know is certain

i can believe my neighbour is at home sleeping or not, while i am certain i am reading these words on a screen

is know false?


I know that belief is not true but it isn't false because someone (you) believes it. So it is not false because someone believes it but it is also not a true statement because only you believe it.
Debate Round No. 2


i have no beliefs

so if i believe in unicorns or santa, they are true because i believe it?


Yeah! If you believe Santa it is not false because you believe it but other people might think that it is not true. Because you Believe it , it is not false.
Debate Round No. 3


so if i believe that santa is real, and some one believe that santa isnt, santa is and isnt real?


Well I don't know if Santa is real or not, but someone who believes santa is real their perspective he is real but if someone doesn't believe santa doesn't believe him they don't believe him. It is all up to their perspective. I thought that santa was real but now I don't.
Debate Round No. 4


so now if any one asks at school you can tell them that santa is just a story, and maybe not have to worry about any embarasment

you do know that you have to imagine santa right? he isnt in the room with you like these words on the screen, and if so i think its fair to assume you have no memory of a "real" santa(not the guy in the mall)


Yes, you can say that you beleive in Santa even if he isn't real.


Vi_spex said that belief is be=lie but it is not.

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
if i take my hand behind my back right now, how many fingers am i showing?
Posted by Brianpark1025 1 year ago
I don't really get what PRO side means by believe being be lie.
Overall, I think Pro's arguments were weak.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
i mean if havnt seen santa its fair to assume you have no memory of a real santa
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Reasons for voting decision: Once again, Pro failed to make a single coherent argument and instead is just wasting server space for Juggle