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interlinking of rivers will solve the water crisis in India

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/12/2012 Category: Economics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jasmancooll

Pro

interlinking of rivers will solve the water crisis in India as some regions are scarce but safety measures should be adopted so that it should not lead flooding
baggins

Con

Glad to accept. I am waiting for my esteemed opponent to explain how interlinking of rivers will solve the water crisis in India.
Debate Round No. 1
jasmancooll

Pro

interlinking of rivers will solve the water crisis in India as some regions are scarce but safety measures should be adopted so that it should not lead flooding

Water, one of the most valuable free gift of nature and part and parcel of life saving gas oxygen, is the life and blood of all creatures of earth without which none can survive. Water, as referred in Vedas and other socio-economic documents, consists of ecological, biological, geological, social, physical, religious, political and cultural values. Today, water scarcity has emerged as global problem consequently, more informed approach is being recognised and articulated all over the globe.
India has been facing acute water crises despite its adequacy with growing needs on account of rapid population growth, economic development, pollution and climatic changes. She has been the victim of recurring floods and droughts in maximum part of its geographical areas.
Thus, for the permanent solution of severe and recurring droughts and floods and scarcity of drinking water the connectivity of Indian rivers has been suggested as quite essential. Keeping in view the various issues like environmental, social, economic, political and inter-state conflicts, International conflicts of rivers water sharing etc., the interlinking of rivers in India is the only solution.
The idea behind river interlinking is based on the fact that an enormous amount of water from rivers flows into the sea. It is envisaged that if this is prevented and water is transferred from water surplus rivers deficit, there will be adequate supply of water for everyone in every part of the country.
The concept of river interlinking is not new because, during the tenure of Mughal the Yamuna and Agra Canal was constructed. Through these canals the water from Himalaya is made available to Punjab, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh.
TIRUPATI: President A P J Abdul Kalam prescribed a nine point programme for the development of the country on Saturday (8 June 2003).
The President, addressing the engineering students at Kuppam, said that the core areas which need the concentration and attention of everyone were agriculture production, education, health care, information and communication technology, exports and infrastructure building.
Stressing the need to find a solution for the perennial drought in the country, he appealed to engineering students to go into interior areas of Kuppam and do research on ancient ponds. "Your mission should aim at bringing water for all villages and this should be your Kuppam Vision," he said.
He opined that there was a greater need for inter-linking of rivers in the country to tackle the water crisis. Rivers like Cauvery, Krishna, Tungabhadra and others needed to be inter-linked to solve the severe problem of water crisis, he said. Kalam appreciated the efforts of chief minister N Chandrababu Naidu in promoting girl child education in the state. Andhra Pradesh was doing a commendable job in this area after Kerala and Tamil Nadu, he said.
He further said about 70 per cent of population was in rural areas and to alleviate poverty, the gross domestic product (GDP) should be raised from 4.5 per cent to 10 per cent with which development could be possible, he added. Later, inaugurating the Peoples Education Society (PES) Medical College at Kuppam, he asked the doctors and engineers to join hands to take up irrigation works and mobile clinics to solve the problems such as water crisis and heat wave deaths.
He further said the mobile clinics set up in remote villages of Uttaranchal received good response. There is a need to educate people on HIV, tuberculosis and cardiac ailments to make India a disease-free country, the president maintained in his address.
Three states recently signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) on the issue of interlinking of rivers, said Union Minister for Water Resources and Parliamentary Affairs Pawan Kumar Bansal while addressing a seminar on "Water conservation and management" organised by the PHD Chamber here today. Giving details, he said the states, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat, had agreed to work out modalities concerning management of water resources in their states. Expecting 20 per cent increase in the efficiency in utilisation of water resources after inter-linking; he said the Union Government was also chalking out plans for other identified inter-linking points.
The minister said the present proposal envisaged 30 links, including 16 peninsular and 14 Himalayan links, which were identified by the National Water Development Agency. Due to international compulsions, the Union Government was facing problems in proceeding with the river inter-linking project as regards points identified in the Himalayan region, he added. He said efficiency in water use was mere 40 per cent in India, while it was around 60 per cent in many other countries. Changing lifestyles of the people had put a lot of pressure on water resources and hence there was a need to make the masses aware about the need of water conservation, he added.
baggins

Con

My opponent's argument has been plagiarized from following 3 sources:

1. Preface to the book http://books.google.co.in...

2. Times of India article http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

3. Tribune article http://www.tribuneindia.com...

Copy pasting someone else's work and pretending it is your own is know as plagiarism. This is taken very seriously by this community. Since my opponent is new here, it is possible he did not know about this.

I would request voters to award me the concduct point becuase of plagiarism. I can claim a technical victory at this point, however I would like to really debate this interesting and relevant issue which needs to be debated. I would encourage my opponent to present his own arguments in next round. This is a 5 round debate, and we can have an interesting debate even if we ignore this round.

In the meantime, I see no purpose in trying to debate against newspapers and book.
Debate Round No. 2
jasmancooll

Pro

actually i didnt know about it as i am new to this site.
In India water crisis is an acute problem.India is facing water crises in many parts of the country despite that it has adequate water in order to meet the growing demand and needs of the increasing population ,as india is 2nd largest populated countries and soon india waill beat China by 2050.And the growing population is putting a great strain on wter resources.India is one of the rapidly growing economy and has a large agricultural sector makes India supply of water even thinner.
The aim behing interlinking of rivers is that if rivers are interlinking is that water is transferred from surplus river to defict river and in this way the rivers having surplus water will also be prevented from various disasters.The idea of interlinking is no knew as during the mughal period the yamuna and agra canal were constructed.In this way water from these canals came from himalyas and made available to various states like Punjab,Uttar Pradesh and Haryana.
And it will be easy for generation Of electricity(hydroelectricity)in many parts of india,navigation and flood prevention.India has also designed NRLP(National River Linking Project).
baggins

Con

baggins forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
jasmancooll

Pro

jasmancooll forfeited this round.
baggins

Con


I am in complete agreement with my opponent that managing water resources wisely is very important for India and her increasing population. Pro’s analysis that some regions in India have surplus water and others are deficient is also correct. In theory, river water linking can provide a nice solution.


Problems emerge when we look into the details of proposals available today. The major proposal today is for National River Linking Project (NRLP) [1]. If implemented this would be the world’s largest river interlinking project. There are huge economic, ecological and social costs associated with this project whose costs are unknown beyond vague estimates. Given the poor track record of Indian bureaucracy - any attempt at implementation is doomed to gigantic delays, cost overruns, massive corruption and poor standard of construction. As it turns out, better and simpler alternatives exist to river linking for meeting our future water needs.


Cost makes NRLP impractical: We don’t really know how much it will cost. As per 2002 estimates, it is going to cost around $122 billion [2]. This is merely back of the envelope estimate which excludes cost of land acquisitions and rehabilitation of displaced people. To put this figure in perspective, India’s GDP is around $1850 billion in 2011 [3]. Annual revenue (not profit) of Indian Railways was $20 billion in 2012 [4]. We cannot really afford to spend $122 billion just because it looks like a good idea. We need detailed technical feasibility study (which we don’t have) and detailed cost-benefit analysis before we commit any money.


All of us know the records of Indian bureaucracy in implementing large projects. Last year’s Commonwealth Games were originally expected to cost $306 million. The final cost was $2.2 billion [5]. The $122 billion budget would definitely be genesis of a million scams.


Massive unaddressed problems linked to river interlinking:



  1. Environmental impact: The project envisages construction of over 80 dams [6]. The environmental impact (which is likely to be huge) is totally unknown. Construction of dams is likely to submerge large tracts of forest land and displace large number of people. Many other environmental problems like soil erosion are related to dams [7]

  2. Social Impact: Large amount of land needs to be acquired for construction of canals. Our record in providing compensation and rehabilitation to people affected by large public projects is extremely poor. No assessment of the cost of rehabilitation of people affected by such projects is known.


Better alternatives exist:


There are better alternatives to river-linking projects available for us to explore.



  1. Desalination of water is becoming inexpensive and practical. Cost of treating sea water is estimated to be $1/m3 for seawater and $0.5/m3 for seawater. These costs are estimated to fall further with development of better technology. Many countries (notably Saudi Arabia) already depend on this solution [8].

  2. We are currently wasting huge amount of water through poor efficiency in irrigation. Better water management can bring down the demand for water [8].


References


[1] http://nrlp.iwmi.org...


[2] https://www.ideals.uiuc.edu... page 9


[3] http://en.wikipedia.org...


[4] http://en.wikipedia.org...


[5] http://en.wikipedia.org...


[6] http://indiatoday.intoday.in...


[7] http://www.arch.mcgill.ca...


[8] http://nrlp.iwmi.org...'s%20River%20Linking%20Project%20-%20State%20of%20the%20debate-%20Shah%20et%20al.pdf page 9


Debate Round No. 4
jasmancooll

Pro

jasmancooll forfeited this round.
baggins

Con

My opponent forfeited again. My arguments stand unadressed. This should be an easy win.

We did not have a very good debate on the resolution. There were forfeits on both sides, while one round was wasted due to plagiarizm by my opponent. If anyone else is interested in debating this issue, let me know. In the meantime VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by baggins 4 years ago
baggins
The same problem here also. Editor seems to breakdown when it encounters ('). The URL seems to work fine.
Posted by baggins 4 years ago
baggins
In R4, reference [9] - please copy the complete URL. Or use the following link...

http://nrlp.iwmi.org...'s%20River%20Linking%20Project%20-%20State%20of%20the%20debate-%20Shah%20et%20al.pdf

Apologies for inconvenience.
Posted by baggins 4 years ago
baggins
I thought the debating period was 3 days :(
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