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indivualismwins
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gingerbread-man
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is school legalized slavery? (libertarian viewpoint)

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gingerbread-man
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/7/2015 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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indivualismwins

Pro

If you are forced, by law, to attend school until yiu are 16 years of age, are you considered property of the government because they are making decisions based on your life? I understand you have no actual rights until you are 18 but that is also morally and ethically wrong because you are telling someone what to do for the first 16 years of your life. The government is impeding minors right to the pursuit of happiness.
gingerbread-man

Con

I will be taking the Con position to the proposition and arguing that schooling is not legalized slavery.

Enjoy and happy debating!
Debate Round No. 1
indivualismwins

Pro

indivualismwins forfeited this round.
gingerbread-man

Con

As it is uncertain whether my opponent will be joining me for the remainder of this debate I do not want to spend a disproportionate amount of time preparing an argument.

As I will be taking on the Con position I will be arguing that school is not legalized slavery.

Point one:

All the state (in many western countries) requires is for children to receive an education, it does not specify whether they must attend an established school or be can be educated in their own homes. Attending school is not legalized slavery, but a choice whereby the legal guardians decide that that institution will be the best alternative for their child(ren)

Point two:
Children do not have the mental capacity to determine what is in their best long term interests

Point three
Attending school is for the sole benefit of the child attending. All educational infrastructure is devoted for the benefit of the child. Although it takes the child"s time to attend school, this time is for their own development. A slave on the other hand would be spending time unrewarded for the primary benefit and financial development of someone else.

Point Four:
Government is not impeding minor"s right to the pursuit of happiness, but legislating to ensure that children obtain an education to greatly increase the chance of obtaining happiness and fulfilling lives. Without legislated school, children are often kept to work in small businesses by their families and their right to an adequate education is ignored by their primary caregivers.

School is like SO not legalized slavery
Debate Round No. 2
indivualismwins

Pro

indivualismwins forfeited this round.
gingerbread-man

Con

hmmmm.... There is really not much more to say is there?...other than...

Vote Con! 'cause its the right thing to do.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Dubious 2 years ago
Dubious
since i can't argue. i will make a point that one isolated self has no survival experience in the world. so human has to pass on that information, or else they would die young and humans would die off. when you are born you do not know what choice is, so then you have to get the information forced within you to have the standards of a human society. Its a matter of being together to work less than you would isolated.
Posted by ZenoCitium 2 years ago
ZenoCitium
You may want to change the wording as not to include "slavery". I get your point about being the property of the government but you're better off having wording more aligned with the libertarian view point, ie the right to life liberty and property. Otherwise, you may find yourself on a tangent, arguing about what constitutes as slavery. It seems like you are including this wording mainly to provoke but it may detract from your main goal. At least if your goal is what I interpreted, which is to advance the libertarian view point.
Posted by Mike_10-4 2 years ago
Mike_10-4
Confusion between Pro and Con? This is a good example why we need to go to school.
Posted by Blade-of-Truth 2 years ago
Blade-of-Truth
I agree with the previous comment. The way you are arguing, you need to be in the Pro position which means that you agree with the resolution. Your position, Con, is meant to be disagreeing with the resolution, not agreeing with it.
Posted by ZenoCitium 2 years ago
ZenoCitium
Shouldn't you be the Pro for this argument?
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Reasons for voting decision: Cons' counter-arguments were dropped, so Con's wins arguments. Conduct to Con for Pro's round forfeits.