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kai11
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alex-rosell98
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is/was god real and why

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kai11
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/3/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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kai11

Pro

1st round - Acceptance
2nd round - Argument presentation
3rd round - cross-examination
4th round- rebuttals
5th round - Closing arguments
alex-rosell98

Con

God's existance is has not been ever prooved. The only "evidence" of its existance, it's a book that contradicts itself and says unbeliavable things, starting from the creation of the universe to the end of the world.
Debate Round No. 1
kai11

Pro

i would like to thank my opponent for taking me up on this particularly difficult subject for some people and i would also like to thank everybody that judges this debate.

now to begin this debate i would like to say

GOD IS REAL

There have been many miracles worked. one such miracle is The Dog, The Chicken, and The Bomb

When David Newkirk, now a youth pastor at Church of the Open Door in Glendora, California, woke up in the middle of the night, he was still exhausted from a college basketball victory the day before.

"Twenty minutes after my head hit the pillow, I was catapulted out of the deepest sleep," he writes in the book. Along with his mother and sister, he was jerked awake to pray for his brother Dan.

Dan was in Israel. Running out of money, he had chosen to sleep on a park bench for the night. In the wee hours of the morning, a snarling dog woke him up, battling with a chicken under the bench.

Unable to break up the animals, Dan found another bench and resumed his rest. The next morning, a bomb exploded right next to the first bench, hurtling it through the air, leaving "a mess of tangled metal and concrete." http://www.christianpost.com....

if you look at the scripture of romans 1:18-32(im posting the verse for you to read by the way) it says,

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
the bible does not contradict itself such as when the bible says do not have a spirit of fear and then says fear the lord thy god it is not contradicting itself but saying that it is bad to constantly live in fear, which is an actual medical case called paranoia which has killed people, it is saying fear the being that created all things according to the christian belief system because a little fear is a good thing because it keeps a person in line.

such as a teacher tells you to do something for an assignment you have the fear of not doing good on the assignment or yelling at the teacher , the teacher can do whatever s/he wants so you are usually nice to them.
alex-rosell98

Con

alex-rosell98 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
kai11

Pro

1. why is it that you don't believe in god
2. do you have any proof that god isn't real
3. based on the fact that you have read it means that you believed at some point so why'd you stop
alex-rosell98

Con

alex-rosell98 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
kai11

Pro

kai11 forfeited this round.
alex-rosell98

Con

alex-rosell98 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
kai11

Pro

i believe i won this argument because i have been the only one debating
alex-rosell98

Con

alex-rosell98 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by kai11 2 years ago
kai11
it is philosophy because it deals with is it or can it be real and it is taught in philosophy class
Posted by Uniscious 2 years ago
Uniscious
This belongs in religion, not philosophy.
Posted by kai11 2 years ago
kai11
if you don't fit just post a comment here if you want to debate
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