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Started: 4/21/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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cchavez

Pro

according to pbs.org the basic benefits of ivf are that it helps infertile parents have kids and to prevent birth defects. for that the reasoning for couples to undergo ivf is for them to have babies when they cant and to make sure that they get a healthy and strong baby.
http://www.pbs.org...
maknatbren

Con

Birth control may be taken. If birth control is not taken then there is a chance of cysts and the eggs not being fertilized at the correct cycle. If estrogen levels are not correct , then injections may be needed which may counteract the birth control being taken.The baby may not be correctly placed and may be stuck in the insertion catheter at the time of insertion.(http://www.shadygrovefertility.com...) It is insanely expensive to conceive babies through this fashion. A family that does not make over $75000 and is uninsured will have to pay about $8470 (https://www.centerforhumanreprod.com...)
Debate Round No. 1
cchavez

Pro

The way to eliminate these problems is to follow the procedures. the fact is that before the treatment the women goes under fertility drugs to release as many eggs as possible during the women's regular menstrual cycle. then she goes under hormone injections for 12 days to release the eggs. they retrieve the eggs and fertilize them. before the doctors transfer the embryos they have you under progesterone pills to thicken the lining of the uterus.when they inject the embryos they check that the lining is thick enough so the embryos can pass with ease, if not they abandon the cycle. for money, it is a very expensive test and hard to come up with money but not everything is cheap.
http://www.babycentre.co.uk...
maknatbren

Con

Despite the possible options to eliminate these problems, there is still the significant issue of "is it ethical"? Not only is there the ethical issue of "is killing unborn babies wrong", but the there is also the issue of having adults think that the child is a right and possession, as opposed to a gift. "I paid $8000 for them, they should be mine, shouldn't they?" For women who have reached the age that menopause occurs, is it right for them to have a baby when their body is no longer able/ just about to not be able to bear children? Is it moral to "throw out" the embryos that may or may not have congenital or physical defect just because we don't like the way they appear? What is a child's value? All of these ethical questions arise.
https://ispub.com...
Debate Round No. 2
cchavez

Pro

The screening of embryos can be beneficial because it allows the parents choose how the child is going to be whether it will look like the father or mother, traits can be decided. screening allows one decide which embryos contain disease and illnesses. Beside illnesses one can prevent family related illnesses. Also it allows one to make their dream baby having traits that are rare and amazing.

http://princessedema-sillo.weebly.com...
maknatbren

Con

That brings up the previous ethical issue, are children possessions and can we "build a child". If you don"t use all of the children that you "designed". There are several options for the disposal of the excess embryos. You can donate the extra embryos to research for scientific and medical use. You may donate your embryo to other couples ( which brings up the question, do you want your offspring to be birthed from someone else? why not just give the child up for adoption?) You may freeze your embryo indefinitely, which is extremely costly for the storage and preservation causes.You may dispose of it yourself or if you want to you may have a "disposal ceremony" if the IVF clinic so offers it. The problems involved in this is obviously the ethical issues, are the embryos human? As well as the issue of do you want other people bearing your child? Is it inhumane to to freeze your offspring? Issues such as these.
http://www.resolve.org...
Debate Round No. 3
cchavez

Pro

Ivf is an issue that has stretched from the begining and only causes problems to those that seek them. It is safe to say that ivf is benefitial to paerents that want children. theissue with this is that it is a very costly procedure of roughly $15000 or more depending on the place and complications. the solution is that if one wants something that bad, then they as parents will have to sacrifise something, in this case lots of money, but with high success rates its worth the cost. if parents get divoreved the one who takes custidy of the eggs would have to be negotiated between both sides and arrive to an agreement for a reduction of complications in court. Besides that, ivf is a good way for parents to have babies if they can produce them and not adopting a child.
maknatbren

Con

Having ONE baby might be beneficial to the parents, however MULTIPLE births may not. When they insert the embryos into the uterus, they insert a multitude ( about 3-4). When this occurs, all four of them , or none of them may hatch, either a) wasting your money, or b) giving the potentially new parents more than they asked for. Not only is the procedure expensive but if the new parents were only expecting one baby and got FOUR, the 18+ year expense of four children might be overwhelming. Some people are not equipped to take care of one baby let alone four, which is an entirely real possibility when considering IVF births.
Debate Round No. 4
cchavez

Pro

The truth is that IVF has increased and wil only continue to grow. the reason is because families choose to pay the heavy cost to have a child of their own instead of adopting. By allowing the mothers and fathers to "in a sense" donate their eggs and sperm for fertilization outside the woumb so that families get a higher chanse of produsing a baby. From when IVf started, many people have compained, argued and debated wether it should be allowed and if it was ethical or not, but the truth is that it depends on the person and IVF is here and will contine to stay.
maknatbren

Con

Despite IVF being anew almost natural part of life in the modern age, the legal issues still arise. When gettingredients divorced the embryos are often treated like children, being disputed for custody. The eggs contain both parts of the parents so in actually who gets the "children"? The legal issue iso one of the most difficult issues to dispute. Ov we fall there is more difficulty in engaging in IVF then there is not engaging in IVF. All in all, it is not ethical.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by ZODD 1 year ago
ZODD
Nice debate to have at a young age. It allows you to explore various views into the IFV technology and whether we should be bypassing natures designs, or flaws. Because we can, does it mean should we?

Keep exploring this and other aspects of the world around us. Nice work you two!!
Posted by GreenwoodFarm 1 year ago
GreenwoodFarm
The debate on the use of IVF is one of those that may come down to and individual's moral beliefs. The same can be said for cosmetic surgery, abortion and many other similar topics. Great job of creating a respectful debate that allows the reader to gather information and form their own conclusion.
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