The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
Bored_Debater
Con (against)
Winning
9 Points

knowledge is truth, and belief is disagreement

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/11/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 204 times Debate No: 93593
Debate Rounds (5)
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Votes (2)

 

vi_spex

Pro

therfore con is a lier
Bored_Debater

Con

I shall prove that pro's claim that I'm a lair, and his understanding of the meaning of knowledge, truth, belief, and disagreement is wrong.

Knowledge: Awareness, understanding, or information that has been obtained by experience or study, and that is either in a person"s mind or possessed by people generally [1].

Truth: The real facts about something [2].

Belief: A feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true [3].

Disagreement: Failure to agree [4].

I'm aware that vi_spex has had this debate in the past [5]. It would seem that vi_spex is running out of ideas to make us scratch our heads and laugh.

His spelling is off, he misspelled therefore [6] and liar [7].

I believe that I have sufficiently proved that knowledge, truth, belief, and disagreement have different meanings and are not the same and that I'm not a liar.

[1] http://dictionary.cambridge.org...
[2] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[3] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[4] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[5] http://www.debate.org...
[6] https://www.google.com...
[7] https://www.google.com...
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

belief is doubt

disagreement is not failure to agree.. we dont have to disagree just because i dont agree with you, i might cheer you on
Bored_Debater

Con

Belief is not doubt, they mean completely different things.

Belief: A feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true [1].

Doubt: To believe that (something) may not be true or is unlikely [2].

My opponent's beliefs bring about our disagreement which does in fact mean failure to agree [3].

Following the events in the past few rounds, it can be seen by anyone logical person that it is pro that is a lair and not con. He also failed to rebut any of my other points. Therefore, I extend them.

[1] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[2] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[3] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Debate Round No. 3
Bored_Debater

Con

Extending my arguments.
Debate Round No. 4
Bored_Debater

Con

Vote con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 5 months ago
vi_spex
hm

i know no boundry of road signs of a blocked road in my gigantic spaceship
Posted by vi_spex 5 months ago
vi_spex
i know no boundry of blocked road signs in my gigantic spaceship
Posted by SJM 5 months ago
SJM
spex is so freakin smart. This is god coming to earth.
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Vote Placed by RoyLatham 4 months ago
RoyLatham
vi_spexBored_DebaterTied
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro has the obligation to write a resolution that is both clear and debatable. Con showed the resolution is not literally true, by giving referenced definitions. Pro could have responded by attempting some clarification that showed he was not arguing the literal definitions, but he did not. He responded by asserting the self-contradictory "belief is doubt." Pro loses arguments for not getting beyond assertions, loses S&G by showing no concern for S&G, and loses references for providing no definitions to support his arguments. Conduct by Pro was borderline at best -- for failing to debate the resolution.
Vote Placed by Peepette 4 months ago
Peepette
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO asserts that CON is a liar. CON picks apart PRO?s definitions of knowledge, truth, belief and disagreement and how it?s used in context. PRO only rebuts disagreement, but falls flat when CON solidifies PRO is incorrect. Win to CON. PRO fails to prove CON is a liar. S&G, Conduct tied, both had readable arguments and were cordial. Although Con was the only one to use sources, they were for common words and arguments for the win could have been made without them.