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TravisTouchdown
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logic is cause and effect

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/30/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 272 times Debate No: 88977
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vi_spex

Pro

cause=random+specified
sum of all logic=chaos+order

poison=unhealthy
logical=dont drink poisonous things to stay healthy
illogical=drink poisonous things to stay healthy

logic is true, logic is absolute, reality is logic
TravisTouchdown

Con

I don't know if your problem is with emotions or illogicality so I'm giving my opinion on both of them, so next time specify the exact question you want to ask.

EMOTIONS: if you're against getting emotional in decisions, then you're both right and wrong.
YOU are right because logic in some matters resolve the problems perfectly, like when some parents argument over problems which a mere child sees the solution to that clearly, they don't see the logical side and excuse those problems to yell at each other. more examples could be said which are very simple and elementary to bring them up, like the one you said.
YOU are wrong because unlike what you think if everyone would solve everything through logic then not only you wouldn't exist right now, but the whole world would be in total chaos because one of the logical things to do right now is to kill all of the people in the world to save the planet from being destroyed or ruined. think about it, the damage we have caused to the earth in our few years (compared to the age of the earth) is more than all the dinosaurs and other animals brought upon this world, therefore we have to kill everyone to save the planet. as you see, logic is not always in your side. of course, the example I used is a little bit exaggerated but it's true at the same time. So we must use both LOGIC and EMOTIONS to decide as appropriate as we can. I think this competition ended in a TIE

ILLOGICALITY: If you meant this, then the argument is over before it even starts, because only emotion and logic could be right or wrong, while every illogical conclusion is COMPLETELY wrong and since wrong things are mostly bad things, LOGIC is the undisputed WINNER of this one. THE END
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

reason is the opposite of logic
TravisTouchdown

Con

Who told you "reason is the opposite of logic"? If you had any brains at all, you'd know Reason IS Logic. They are synonyms. now I see, you have totally been ****ing with us. go play with something else and don't waste our time.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

it is true that reason is the opposite of logic, everything that exist has an opposite for it to exist

there is no cause and effect in fantasy, no necessety of motion..

you are wasting my time and your own.. denial can make one think reason is logic
TravisTouchdown

Con

TravisTouchdown forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

touchdown!
TravisTouchdown

Con

TravisTouchdown forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
TravisTouchdown

Con

TravisTouchdown forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 8 months ago
vi_spex
so rocks can just stop acting
Posted by CaptainScarlet 8 months ago
CaptainScarlet
Of course rocks act. They do so in accordance with their nature. Just one example they deform under pressure at fault lines which results in causally altering land forms above the ground. I think you are faultily equating action with consciousness, implying an unconscious universe has no action, reaction or causality, which is plainly false.
Posted by vi_spex 8 months ago
vi_spex
a thesis can be wrong
Posted by vi_spex 8 months ago
vi_spex
rocks dont act
Posted by CaptainScarlet 8 months ago
CaptainScarlet
Whilst I wouldn't phrase it like that, you have essentially a sound thesis. The Objectivist view of causality is that it is the law of identity applied to action. Things interact causally with each other based on their own natures (see law of identity), things are what they are and act in accordance with that nature.
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Vote Placed by dsjpk5 8 months ago
dsjpk5
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Reasons for voting decision: Con ff many times, so conduct to Pro