logic is cause and effect
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sum of all logic=chaos+order
logical=dont drink poisonous things to stay healthy
illogical=drink poisonous things to stay healthy
logic is true, logic is absolute, reality is logic
Addressing the title of the debate: 'logic is cause and effect'. by logic, I presume he means that in a logical syllogism, the premises are the causes and the conclusion is the effect. while this seems intuitive, I believe it to be a flawed analogy.
Pro has defined cause, but not effect. As such, according to Google, a definition of cause and effect is "the principle of causation.". kinda self-referential, but it also lists causation as "the relationship between cause and effect; causality." causality is defined as "the principle that everything has a cause." now we are getting somewhere.
in order for the statement 'logic is cause and effect' to be true, Pro would have to show how the premises cause the conclusion. this will be difficult in the case where the premises are false and the conclusion is true, or when the premises have nothing to do with the conclusion.
cause is effect, chicken is egg
i am pro.. you show why i am wrong, con.. or you do not exist in this debate
i am saying.. all cause and effect relations are logic, should be easy to spot an example of this
if logic were cause and effect in the sense that the premises cause the conclusion, then there should be no exceptions to this rule. However, non-sequitur arguments, or arguments with false premises and true conclusions are exceptions. thus, pro's original argument is invalid.
"logic is not reasoning"
google defines reasoning as "the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.". I fail to see how thinking about something logically is not logic.
" all cause and effect relations are logic"
This statement is the converse of the original title of the debate, thus it has different logical truth values. As such, it cannot be used as evidence to support the original claim.
" you show why I am wrong, con.. or you do not exist in this debate"
Pro seems to be making statements that are demonstrable untrue. This sentence alone proves I exist in this debate.
logic is the opposite of logical and illogical, truth and false
i have no idea what you are talking about dude.. its very simple.. prove cause and effect is not logic
"logic is true"
according to the google, which is getting quite a workout, true is "in accordance with fact or reality." Thus there should be no examples which do not correlate to reality. Contradictions do not exist in reality. thus, the logical contradiction of the statement "this statement is a lie" means logic isn't about reality.
"logic has nothing to do with reality" - Ayn Rand.
the cheese moon crust surface vaporizing at my blast waves has nothing to do with logic
As you have failed even to attempt to refute any of my assertions, and along with your statement above, I accept your concession of defeat in this debate. Thank you for the conversation.
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