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cam_25aus
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persianimmortal
Con (against)
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logic is false

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persianimmortal
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/14/2016 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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cam_25aus

Pro

logic is false, for sure.
persianimmortal

Con

Is your argument a question or a conclusion without even having a debate to test it?

If this is a question, then your sentence structure does not match that of a debatable question, even if a question mark was added at the end of your argument. Therefore it is illogical to even have a debate given that you have already made up your mind.

If this is a conclusion, then again we have no reason to debate this topic given your decision. But, what was the initial question that made you decide this?
Debate Round No. 1
cam_25aus

Pro

logic is false

no one can be sure
persianimmortal

Con

Answer my question please :)
Debate Round No. 2
cam_25aus

Pro

answer my question
persianimmortal

Con

Pro has not asked a question and yet demands an answer by saying "answer my question". This makes no sense. In addition, the only question asked in this debate was by me, to which I never got an answer from. Let me say this, your arguments put forth are nonsensical, and highly unreasonable. A synonym of unreasonable is illogical. So clearly logic exists you just failed at displaying what a logical argument looks like. So just cuz you failed, don't mean errabody else has to do the same.

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
Though honestly both sides here are tied, Pro is just stating something he believes and Con is questioning what it means. Who cares what Pro is saying, prove your side to US the Viewers of the Debate and why YOU are Con to the Subject, "logic is false". Thats the only way you can win this Con. And Pro needs to provide evidence too, but I doubt he will from his behavior, and I have seen enough ties lately, Win the dang debate someone!
Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
Bottom line is: Since Humans are Illogical, How can we trust our thoughts and claim them as Logical? How can we use our illogical selves and claim having logic? It is illogical. Lol
Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
I guess what I mean is things like, how can you PROVE reality is... Real? How can you prove anything is Real? Lol, For all you know this is all a big dream and your actually in a coma... Haha, or maybe this is some sort of Limbo and everything about reality isnt true. Those types of things cant really be proven. Though assuming everything is real, there is still a lot we cant prove. Such as, Gravity, Reason for Living, Distances in Space, Creation\Destruction of Matter and Energy, Edge of the Universe, Choices, ect.... These are all things we cannot Observe. Humans have a tendency to say "If I can't see it, it doesnt exist." However we are illogical because we make exceptions for this rule when we see something that could relate to that unobserved something. Such as something "falling" we can relate that to Gravity, but what is Gravity? How can something pull another thing it isnt touching? Go into spacetime bends and such and I have a debate that shows the problems with that too. Reason for Living, why does everything want to live? Common answer is Instint, well why does "Instinct" want to live? Is there some sort of weird consciousness controlling the Evolutionary process to continue adapting to survive? If not then why do thing want to live? If there is no God, and there is nothing after Death, then why does it matter "when" you die. Time is also another illusion you cannot prove according to the Copernican Principle, basically there is no special, direction, time, space, person ect....

Overall we can see humans are illogical because we strive to survive knowing that one day we will die, have feel no different then if we had died earlier. (Taken from an Atheist point of view) (A Religious Point of view would be: Why care if you die? Do the best you can and Paradise awaits) So overall Humans illogical. We cannot truly touch anything, why? Magnetic Fields, But why do magnetic fields work the way they do? Humans can ask questions, but cannot answer "Why".
Posted by persianimmortal 1 year ago
persianimmortal
What do you mean "how can anything be truly proven"? By asking this, you're questioning everything around you and associated to you. You're questioning the proof of your genetic relationship with your parents, and you're questioning your past, present and future education and achievements. By asking this, you, by default, question the love your parents claim they have for you because...well, how can that be proven? When your spouse asks you, "do you love me?" Your question of "how can anything be proven", means that you have an obligation to prove it but then again, how can anything be proven? Clearly the answer is having faith; commonsensical, testable, progressive faith. But things such as the genetic relationship to your parents, is a proven faith because you KNOW you are a creation from their flesh and blood. So things can be proven my friend and logic only makes it easier for us to light the way to the discovery of our sought-after, final answer.
Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
Well i kinda agree, who can say that Mankind's logic is true? We made it. So because we say something does that make it true? How do we know if anything is logical? How can anything be truly proven?
Posted by persianimmortal 1 year ago
persianimmortal
Given that fantasy is not the subject here....what are you talking about?
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
logic is true, there is no logic in fantasy
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
wrong version
Posted by cam_25aus 1 year ago
cam_25aus
wat????? logic is false
Posted by OreosAreCool 1 year ago
OreosAreCool
vi_spex V2?
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Vote Placed by ssadi 1 year ago
ssadi
cam_25auspersianimmortalTied
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Reasons for voting decision: BOP is on Pro to prove their claim that logic was false. They only barely asserted that the logic is false, providing absolutely no argument so that Con argued against. So, arguments to Con by default.
Vote Placed by fire_wings 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro does not argue, and fails to answer Con's question and rebut his arguments.