marijuana legalized
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Thaddeus
| Started: | 5/3/2011 | Category: | Health |
| Updated: | 2 years ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 571 times | Debate No: | 16268 |
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Alright this is my first debate. I know you may not think I am a good debater since no one has seen mine.
Marijuana shouldn't be legalized due to the reasons that the high is too powerful for most people to control. I understand it is used for medical purposes as a painkiller, but there are other ways to relieve someone's pain.
Given that con has not stated for which country, we can assume that this is discussing the law in a general sense. Therefore, as some country's have legalized marijuana whilst others haven't, the burden of proof is shared, as neither of us are arguing for the status quo. I will be arguing that on balance it is beneficial for a country to not have a law preventing the ownership or use of marijuana, whilst my opponent will be arguing that on balance having the law would be beneficial. I shall first provide my arguments and then address my opponents. In this first round I shall be brief in outlining my arguments. 1. Prohibition increases crime rates By prohibiting marijuana it eliminates legal supply without affecting demand, thus creating a black market. This means that criminal activity can be funded by the sale of marijuana, thus allowing for the expansion of drug cartels into other areas, increasing crime. "If you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel. That's literally true." —Milton Friedman By making marijuana illegal, we make smuggling profitable. Making marijuana illegal also leads to police corruption [http://www.ichrp.org...] and causes people to commit crime in order to aquire the finances to illegally purchase the drugs [Duke, Steven B (21 Dec 1993). How Legalization Would Cut Crime.] [Trebach, Arnold S.; Kevin B. Zeese, Milton Friedman (1992). Friedman and Szasz on Liberty and Drugs: Essays on the Free Market and Prohibition] 2. Prohibition is incredibly expensive The cost of enforcing such a law is very expensive. As an example the US has spends 44 billion dollars on enforceing this law. Furthermore the oportunity cost of being unable to tax the drugs is costing somewhere around 7 billion more. [http://blogs.reuters.com...] 3. It is not the role of government to prevent someone from harming oneself through marijuana use The government's role is not to make us make healthy choices, otherwise they would ban fast-food, which is far more ruinous to one's health. The use of law in government is to protect individuals being harmed by others. Given that the only one harmed by the useage of marijuana used sensibly (the government can't legalize against stupidity - just because I can endanger other road users by wearing a tv on my head whilst driving doesn't mean the govt. should make tvs illegal) is one's self, a law restricting use is unjustified. 4. Marijuana is actually a very safe drug comparitively Many studies have shown that the risks of marijuana are very low, even when compared to legal drugs such as alcohol, tobacco, or caffiene [http://www.guardian.co.uk...] Con's arguments. 1. The high is too powerful for most people to control. This is an assertion without warrent. As I have already demonstrated [argument 4] the harm to one's self is minimal. However, even granting that the harm was severe, so what? Does that mean governments should interfere with civil liberties? Why should a government prevent one from harming one's self if it does not harm others? 2. Medical alternatives It is true there are other ways to relieve pain, though seeing as I support non-medical usuage of marijuana, this is irrelevent. I await your response. |
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My opponent has made a good point and that i should have specified which country I was referring to. My opponent brings up the "economy" aspect of this drug being banned in the US. Marijuana has been known to make people do things that they would not be doing if they werent under the influence. Some of my friends smoke weed and I have seen the effects of it. The thought process of someone that is under the influence is unbelieveably diffrent from that of someone that is drunk.
"Con's arguments. 1. The high is too powerful for most people to control. This is an assertion without warrent. As I have already demonstrated [argument 4] the harm to one's self is minimal. However, even granting that the harm was severe, so what? Does that mean governments should interfere with civil liberties? Why should a government prevent one from harming one's self if it does not harm others?" It is the objective of the government to ensure the safety of an individual and the people around that individual. Imagine if someone that were high were driving home. That person could become easily distracted and not only put themselves in danger, but other people that are nearby or on the road. Drug cartels, i understand, cause a black market because of marijuana. Even if Marijuana were leagalized, drug cartels would still continue with selling other illegal drugs. Are you suggesting that we make all illegal drugs legal? I am pleased with my oppenents arguements. Con has failed to address nearly all of my arguments. I extend 2 to 4. I shall first defend argument one. "Drug cartels, i understand, cause a black market because of marijuana. Even if Marijuana were leagalized, drug cartels would still continue with selling other illegal drugs. Are you suggesting that we make all illegal drugs legal?" Con falsely states that it is the cartels themselves creating the black-market. This is untrue. Even without cartels, considering there is sufficient demand, black markets would be formed by individuals. With regards to question whether we make drugs legal, the answer is that this argument does support making all drugs legal (I do as well!), but it is not relevent to the debate. Con fails to address the rest of my arguments concerning crime. Con defends his assertion that the high is too powerful. He does this without sources to back it up and inspite of the evidence provided. He also asserts that "It is the objective of the government to ensure the safety of an individual and the people around that individual." This is evidently false if one looks at the amount of legal unhealthy foods and non-mandated exercise. My opponent proposes the following scenario; " Imagine if someone that were high were driving home. That person could become easily distracted and not only put themselves in danger, but other people that are nearby or on the road." Though I have already countered this argument (seemingly ignored by con), I shall reiterate it. If I were to hollow out a water-melon and place it upon my head whilst driving, due to my lack of vision I would find exceedingly difficult to drive safely. Even accounting for the possibility that I might strike a few gingers or justin Bieber fans down in my blinded state, the consequences would likely be disastrous. Now my opponent suggests that because one can blind oneself with a watermelon used as a helmet, creating a dangerous situation when in a vehicle, that we should ban the possesion and use of watermelons everywhere. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that this is ridiculous, and rather we ought to just ban the wearing of watermelons on ones head whilst driving a vehicle. Similarly, becuase one can drive under influence of drugs, does not mean that drugs in general should be illegal. I hope that con provides better arguments in the next round. |
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Marineboy21 forfeited this round.
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Vote Placed by kohai 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeited, Thaddeus had better sources and strong arguments
Vote Placed by boredinclass 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: con forfeit













Dude, it's marijuana, not acid. It doesn't make you do anything. In fact, even acid trips are controllable.