The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
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The Contender
Udel
Con (against)
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6 Points

morality is only a cage without the option to do something.

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Udel
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/27/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Votes (2)

 

vi_spex

Pro

morality is a cage i agree with the bible, but that dosnt mean i have to be immoral.
Udel

Con

Morality describes beliefs about what is right behavior and what is wrong behavior.

http://www.merriam-webster.com...

By definition, morality weighs different options and choices about doing things.

The Bible provides a moral guide and says we have free will to make choices that are moral or immoral.

The Bible contains a lot of moral contradictions and is not the singular best source for morality.

http://ffrf.org...
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

beliefs are immoral, i can believe the opposite is moral

there is no morality in christianity.. even thou it describes murder correctly, i am not a christian for accepting it.. it is not truth
Udel

Con

Pro says that beliefs are immoral. He doesn't explain which beliefs are immoral.

It is logical to believe that moral beliefs are moral, due to the logical concept of the law of non-contradiction.

Pro says there is no morality in Christianity, but that is irrelevant, even if it were true which he has not proven.

http://www.logicwarrior.net...

Morality concerns itself with doing what is righteous. It provides options and seeks to find what is good.

Morality is important in both religion and law as well as other aspects of society.

http://www.equip.org...
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

beliefs are immoral because you dont look at murder to figure if its wrong, you take it on word..

belief is illogical or unknown

religion represent 100 percent immorality
Udel

Con

Pro says that murder is wrong which means he holds a moral view about murder. This means morality is not a cage and provides the option to murder or not murder.

Beliefs are not illogical. We know what our beliefs are, and they are rooted in justifiable things like our experience and what we have been taught.

I have already commented on the link between religion and morality.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
higher levels

so explain what it is that dosnt make sense.. this is where your problem is
Posted by corporealbeing 1 year ago
corporealbeing
I don't understand, vi_spex, what you are trying to get at. I've seen a few of your debate challenges in the open debates section, but most of them don't make any sense. Did you yourself say in the comment below that you are unwilling to clarify what you are trying to say.

It sounds like you may be a troll.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
that option... me explaining things or clarifying.. went in the drain a long time ago
Posted by mall 1 year ago
mall
May accept debate if it can be understood exactly what the premise is . Please clarify
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Vote Placed by lannan13 1 year ago
lannan13
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Reasons for voting decision: This debate is about the aspects of morality. For this debate, the Burden of Proof is on Pro in order to prove and uphold the resolution. Con goes and defines morality in R1 as Pro had neglected to go and do so, which the definition he provided can win the debate all by itself. Con goes on to show that even though morality may be subjective, each person has a sense of morality. Pro attempts to refute by arguing that morality is subjective, but this is something that Con himself has said in the debate. Pro ends in R3 by saying that the Bible is immoral, but due to both sides agreeing that morality is subjective, we have to see that this means that people can view it as a guide for morality while others may not. With that I have to go and give the arguments points to Con in this debate.
Vote Placed by Danielle 1 year ago
Danielle
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Reasons for voting decision: Con describes morality and how the definition alone negates the resolution. Pro claims that beliefs are immoral but does not prove it. Con explains that morality discusses options which means you are not caged with only 1 choice as the resolution states.