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vi_spex
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Tthompson1995
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morality=survival truth

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Tthompson1995
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/13/2017 Category: Science
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

forfit accepted
Tthompson1995

Con

If you are saying that morality is based exclusively on whether or not something helps us survive, you are saying that rape is not a morally bad thing because it doesn't make someone live longer or shorter. you are saying that it is not morally bad to be racist as long as you don't kill someone. You are saying that it is morally indifferent to hit someone in the leg with a baseball bat for no reason since it will not kill them.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

it could make some one kill themselves.. it also relates to pain, so there is a more precise definition, like necessety or necessary action, but it is rooted in survival.. and survival truth is the best description i have come to so far, if you can find the precise definition that would be my defeat

rape is naturally moral, like eating food is not immoral, its necessary, we need food

survival argues for being social rather then asocial, as a social species
Tthompson1995

Con

You said that an action that we do to someone could make someone want to kill themselves, which by your definition would make it immoral. But someone could have the same thing happen to them and it makes them live to help others who are going through that same thing which would save the lives of others, which would make that thing a morally good thing. That would make morality change from person to person which is not an absolute morality at all. Literally the only immoral act that is always absolute in your worldview is murder.

As for rape being natural, if you are saying that it is no different than our need for food, I would have to disagree. I believe that rape is absolutely immoral on any circumstance. I personally believe that the Bible is God's word and that gives us our absolute morality. I would like to challenge you to read through the Book of John and look at the claims of Jesus and ask God to reveal himself to you!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by PsionicTurtle 10 months ago
PsionicTurtle
He is a troll, just look at his past debates
Posted by platoandaristotle 10 months ago
platoandaristotle
what do you mean by the title
Posted by PowerPikachu21 10 months ago
PowerPikachu21
Yes.
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Vote Placed by theta_pinch 10 months ago
theta_pinch
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Reasons for voting decision: Con makes a good point that many actions widely considered immoral, such as rape, would be moral in a morality=survival truth paradigm.