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to me this explain the phenomena of ray comfort
As for the banana man, he is blind in a dark room and believes there is light, but refuses to press the button to test his beliefs (metaphorically speaking).
testing a belief with a belief proves nothing
Ah, but why trust the scientific method?
Random chance < scientific method
Therefore, Scientific method = can trust
In other words, the scientific method has provided predictions in the past. These predictions have matched observations more often than random chance would suggest, so we know from these observations that the scientific method is a useful basis for determining truth.
Observation = Truth = 1. Do you agree?
belief=be lie, as i dont know is true
science is a religion becasue it relys on confirmation from machines, also i can at best believe what others tell me, as i have to imagine it
evidence = knowledge + observation
I dont know is not always true. If you touch a hot cup then you know that cup is hot through observation.
Science has existed long before machines. Science does not rely on confirmation from machines, it relies on confirmation from observation.
belief is doubt, as i dont know is true. possibility has at least 2 sides
i dont know is true unless i know, beyond what i know is what i dont know
i can at best believe what others tell me. using machines to observe, or like when the astronomer hears my Words he is quick to reach for his telescope, like the preacher with his bible
If you touch a hot cup then you know the cup is hot (observation) If you know the cup is hot then I don't know if the cup is hot is false. Observation makes I don't know false for whatever you observe.
You can believe more than what others tell you. If you see a yellow banana you believe it is yellow without anyone telling you. Your reason for believing this is that you see it (observation).
If the astronomers observations are consistent then the scientific method can be applied as described above.
those tests and observations are done by others, i can at best believe what others tell me, as i have to imagine it
belief=be lie, as i dont know is true(theism)
i dont know=i can at best imagine it
and the astronomer still relys on machines, still religion
"Those tests and observations are done by others"
This is sometimes, but not always, true. When it is true you can repeat these tests yourself. For example, if I say that touching boiling water causes burns I can test this by heating water until it begins to boil, touching it, observing whether I am burned as a result, and making a prediction based on these observations. . On your end, if you do not believe I really did this test or you believe that I lied about the results then you can repeat the test for yourself (I highly suggest you don't). If you get the same results you know my conclusion was valid.
Belief = possibility = testable
Observation = Physical experience
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