The Instigator
dairygirl4u2c
Pro (for)
Losing
7 Points
The Contender
ESocialBookworm
Con (against)
Winning
15 Points

my milk shake is better than yours

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after 4 votes the winner is...
ESocialBookworm
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/10/2014 Category: Funny
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 4,962 times Debate No: 56361
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (13)
Votes (4)

 

dairygirl4u2c

Pro

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. And, they attest that it is indeed superior to yours.

As irrefutably demonstrated in this graph:
<a href=http://www.lolrap.com...; />




And demonstrated here:

<a href=http://2.bp.blogspot.com...; />
ESocialBookworm

Con

I feel bad for accepting this debate, but you only live once! Thanks and good luck to my opponent.


Since the resolution isn't clear, I'll be arguing for both "milk shake" and "milkshake."


Definitions:

Milk: "a white liquid produced by a plant or woman to feed her baby or by female animals to feed their young; especially : milk from cows or goats that is used as food by people" [1]

Shake: "to move sometimes violently back and forth or up and down with short, quick movements" [2]

Milkshake: "a thoroughly shaken or blended drink made of milk, a flavoring syrup, and often ice cream" [3]

Better- "More useful, suitable, or desirable" [4]


Therefore, to win this debate, Pro must prove that her milkshake is more useful, suitable or desirable.

Refutations:

1. Sources
Pro commits a logical fallacy. The graph she provides says, "My milkshake." However, she did not define "my."
"My" is "he possessive form of 'I.'" [5]
Pro did not provide her sample population nor did she provide a location for "the yard." For all we know, these boys (if we can call them that because we don't know if they really do exist) could be moving to another yard to get away from Pro's milkshake.

2. Irrelevance
I would like to enquire what the second picture has anything to do with this topic.

Contentions:

1. Chocolate Milkshake

Since we're arguing which is better, I shall argue for a chocolate milkshake.


<img src="http://www.debate.org/ESocialBookworm/photos/album/3722/25386/" height="300" width="300"/>



P1: Chocolate milkshake is made from chocolate.
P2: Chocolate has many benfits.
C: Chocolate milkshakes have many benefits.

This proves its usefulness, which is part of the definition of "better."


Chocolate has cardiovascular benefits and helps to lower blood pressure and risk of heart attack. [6].
I will get more onto why the chocolate milkshake is better in the next round.

2. My milkshake brings everyone to the milkshake stores to get one.

My opponent has alleged that her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
As seen in my defintion above, "better" refers to "more desirable." Just because ALL the boys (which has not been proven yet) goes to Pro's house does not mean that her milkshake is more desirable or better.

Again, she has failed to show that ALL boys are at "the yard (which she failed to define or locate.)


Sources:


[1]- http://www.merriam-webster.com...;
[2]- http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[3]- http://www.merriam-webster.com...;
[4]- http://www.thefreedictionary.com...;
[5]- http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
[6]- http://www.womenshealthmag.com...
Debate Round No. 1
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

how do you know my milkshake isn't chocolate?

also, did you look at the graph i provided? it doesn't get much more offiical (looking?) than that. again, it was self evidently irrefutable. that all the boys attest to the superiroity of my milkshake goes to show that it is in fact superior.

i will lend you a hand in this debate. there is only one way to properly respond to my proposition. please see the following for how that affirmation is affirmed, and if you can do likewise, you would at least get consideration for a well articulated concession.

<a href=http://i.imgur.com...; width="551" height="721" />




while i normally charge for my services, please consider the above advice free of charge.
ESocialBookworm

Con

REBUTTALS:


1. My opponent still has not provided a definition for her milkshake or what kind it is.

2. "it doesn't get much more offiical (looking?)"

Just because something looks official does not mean that it is. There was no proof that the graph showing "my" and "your" milkshake was yours and mine, as they were not defined.

"it was self evidently irrefutable"

The refutations I provided have proven otherwise. Therefore, this is negated.


"that all the boys attest to the superiroity of my milkshake goes to show that it is in fact superior. "
Pro has yet to prove this. The graph was never given a source.

"All the boys attest"

This was not proven. Also, all the boys where? On earth? In Australia? In the Caribbean?

If you are saying "all the boys in the world," this is negated as some people are poor and have not even tasted a milkshake.
Newborn baby boys can drink milk but can't have milkshakes.


3. Location
"My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard"

For how long? If permanently, this is negated.


There are currently boys on the road, in schools, on DDO etc.

PICTURES to prove: http://www.debate.org...

Boys on the beach and not in your yard: http://data2.whicdn.com...

Boy in a forested area shooting a bow and arrowand not in your yard: http://www.elllo.org...

Boy in a pool floating and not in your yard: http://img.ehowcdn.com...

Boy in car and not in your yard: http://images4.fanpop.com...

Boys on grass in pathway and not in your yard: https://iprefertheobscureremix.files.wordpress.com...


Therefore, not all the boys are in your yard.

Debate Round No. 2
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

my milkshake is chocolate with strawberry, and a bunch of top secret ingredients that cannot be given.

con ignores that i am dairygirl, and as such, i have an inherent advantage on dairy products, including milkshakes.

con provides evidence of boys being in places other than in my yard. however, this ignores the fact that i never claimed the boys were always in my yard, but when my milkshake came round, they were left unable to *not* be in my yard.

con draws issues with all the boys attesting to the superioority of my milkshake. she asks various questions regarding this, but it all bails down to the logical fallacy on con's part, "argumentum ad elmilkshakeious enjeolousyous"

in fact, my milkshake dominance is so well established, that they made a song for it. let me leave you with it.

thus, we are forced to conclude, that, in fact, my milkshake is irrefutably better than yours.
ESocialBookworm

Con

Jumping right into it..."my milkshake is chocolate with strawberry,"
The Strawberry then taints the awesomeness of the chocolate.
P1: Strawberries are acidic.[1]
P2: The acid curdles the milk, and make it taste bad. [2]
C: Strawberries take away the good taste from the chocolate.

"and a bunch of top secret ingredients that cannot be given."
What about people who have allergies or rashes? If your ingredients are a secret, then someone can get hurt and therefore, it is not more useful, and not better.

"con ignores that i am dairygirl, and as such, i have an inherent advantage on dairy products, including milkshakes."
P1: Mr Bean"s name has Bean in it.
P2: It was never stated that Mr Beans liked beans or knew a lot about it
C: Mr Beans doesn"t necessarily have expansive knowledge of beans though his name has Beans in it.

<img src="http://www.debate.org/ESocialBookworm/photos/album/3722/25456/" height="300" width="300" />

"con provides evidence of boys being in places other than in my yard. however, this ignores the fact that i never claimed the boys were always in my yard, but when my milkshake came round, they were left unable to *not* be in my yard."
Your name is dairygirl.
Dairy (the product): [3 is "food produced from the milk of mammals" [3]
P1: Dairy products are produced from milk.
P2: Since you think your milkshake is better, you"ve probably tasted it before.
P3: You have had milk before.
C: You may have traces of milk and or its nutrients in your blood.

Girl: "a female child, from birth to full growth." [4]
P1: Girls are humans.
P2: Humans are capable of locomotion.
Shake: "to move". [5]
P3: Shaking involves moving, which involves locomotion.
C: Girls can "shake"
By this logic, Dairygirl = Milk + Shake

Saying that boys are not always in her yard, means that her milkshake is not better than mine.

<img src="http://www.debate.org/ESocialBookworm/photos/album/3722/25387/" height="300" width="300" />

"it all bails down to the logical fallacy on con's part, "argumentum ad elmilkshakeious enjeolousyous""
No sources or evidence was provided for this.

"in fact, my milkshake dominance is so well established, that they made a song for it. let me leave you with it"
In the song, it is said, "My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard."
Pro stated that she did not make this song. "They" made it. If "they" made it for her, then shouldn"t "they" have stated that "Dairygirl"s milkshake brings all the boys to the yard?" Therefore, Pro just popped her entire argument.
Actually, KELIS, the person who sang the song, is actually me. It stands for:
K-Kewl
E-Esocial
L-loves
I-interesting
S-Shakes
Therefore, the song is about my milkshakes. Not yours.

"thus, we are forced to conclude, that, in fact, my milkshake is irrefutably better than yours."
Irrefutably means that it cannot be refuted. I just refuted your arguments. You were incorrect.

Sources:
[1]- http://www.acidalkalinediet.com...
[2]- http://www.thekitchn.com...
[3]- http://en.wikipedia.org...
[4]- http://dictionary.reference.com...
[5]- http://dictionary.reference.com...
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Thanks for a fun debate. Great job!
Debate Round No. 3
13 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by TrollGod 2 years ago
TrollGod
Troll debate or not it's obvious Esocial wrecked Dairygirl. It's in the FUNNY section jeez.
Posted by Kreakin 2 years ago
Kreakin
None serious debate gets non serious votes. Don't do joke debates if you want it to be judged seriously..
Posted by ESocialBookworm 2 years ago
ESocialBookworm
I don't mind losing the arguments point, but I don't see why I lost the conduct and source point. I don't see where Pro lost conduct either.
Posted by ESocialBookworm 2 years ago
ESocialBookworm
I am going to ask that ALL voters (who believe that Pro OR Con won) please vote fairly. The conduct point is for FFs, or insults etc. The S&G is for poor grammar and spelling, e.g. verb tenses. The convincing arguments is whoever was able to provide better arguments that swayed your position to their side. The source point is for whoever used better, more reliable sources, e.g. Not only from their head or personal experience etc.

I don't know how I can break this down any further.
Posted by ESocialBookworm 2 years ago
ESocialBookworm
0.0 Umm... well that happened..
Posted by Kreakin 2 years ago
Kreakin
Looks like the voting is going to be about how popular you are in the forums on this one..
Posted by Luke_Krog 2 years ago
Luke_Krog
Is this a joke! Come on! How is the Con winning? Did you not even look at the official graph?
Posted by Ragnar 2 years ago
Ragnar
There is no free win for taking a troll debate seriously.
Posted by AngelofDeath 2 years ago
AngelofDeath
Lol there's another one exactly like this
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Vote Placed by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
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Reasons for voting decision: managed to rig the arguments and put some sources in her favor.
Vote Placed by Mikal 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Esocials milkshake is clearly superior as demonstrated by the graph. Spock said fuk Spock. Plus pro plagiarized her argument from 16k adams.
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Reasons for voting decision: Dairygirls milkshake is clearly superior as demonstrated by the graph. Spock agreed also...
Vote Placed by Ajab 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: What the hell did I just read? In any case I am sure this was meant as a troll debate and Con took it rather seriously and trolled a troll debate. Con provided a more systematic argument but went away from the major spirit of the debate. This debate was meant obviously as a mockery and to poke fun. In any case fun debate to read. In technicalities I should specify that since dairygirl was Pro she had the BoP this made it harder for her.