The Instigator
anotherkid
Pro (for)
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patsox834
Con (against)
Winning
63 Points

ninjas are better than prates

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Started: 5/21/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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anotherkid

Pro

Ninjas have stealth and ninja stars.
patsox834

Con

Simply put, my opponent's post doesn't in any way show that ninjas are superior to pirates.

Since my opponent is the claimant, the burden to provide some sort of support that ninjas are better than pirates lies with him.

...anyway, I'll have to wait until my opponent shows some sort of reasoning to throw out a rebuttal. I look forward to seeing just what these reasons are.
Debate Round No. 1
anotherkid

Pro

ninjas could totally kill pirates, plus they have many honors that pirates dont, therefore have more to live up to
patsox834

Con

I'd like to thank my opponent for his response.

<"ninjas could totally kill pirates,">

And pirates could kill ninjas, too...but so what? This debate isn't a poor man's Deadliest Warrior, meaning that we're not debating who'd win in a fight between a ninja and a pirate -- the debate is, as the title says "ninjas are better than p[i]rates." As I said, the onus is completely on my opponent -- but he has failed to provide a rationale which would back his claim up -- just because ninjas could potentially kill the pirates doesn't make them better.

<"plus they have many honors that pirates dont, therefore have more to live up to">

What honors would these be? And secondly, having higher expectations doesn't equate to being better.

And even if ninjas *were* to have more "honors," the thing is, these honors are based off human opinion, and are therefore, subjective, which means they're a poor objective measure in determining who's "better."

I'd again like to thank my opponent for this interesting debate; I look forward to his retort.
Debate Round No. 2
anotherkid

Pro

At least im defending my opinion. All you're doing is explaining how poor of a debater i am. If you could argue that pirates are better than ninjas, please do so, that's what this argument is about (not trying to bring the other person down with negative comments). So if can't describe how pirates are better than ninjas (which should have been what we're arguing about) then i consider myself the winner of this debate. =)
patsox834

Con

<"All you're doing is explaining how poor of a debater i am.">

This is incorrect -- I'm explaining that my opponent is the one whose in possession of the burden of proof, which means that it's his job to provide some sort of proof; there's no burden on me to prove anything.

<"If you could argue that pirates are better than ninjas, please do so, that's what this argument is about (not trying to bring the other person down with negative comments).">

My opponent seems to be addressing me directly and falsely claiming that I've made negative comments towards him, rather than presenting an actual argument, which seems fallacious in nature.

My opponent hasn't realized that it isn't my job to prove that pirates are better; all I have to do is negate what he says, which I have. He's the claimant; therefore, it's fully my opponent's job to back himself up. Considering that he has failed to show that ninjas are in any way superior to pirates, and that I've, indeed, negated what he has said, I strongly urge everyone to vote con. Thank you to pro for this debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Ange154 7 years ago
Ange154
lolz ninjas suck
Posted by xiaotianZ 7 years ago
xiaotianZ
i suport ninjas, but in this debate con's case is clearly superior.
Posted by sherlockmethod 7 years ago
sherlockmethod
I did not find anything negative about Con's argument. Con wins easily.
Posted by theitalianstallion 7 years ago
theitalianstallion
All points to Patsox for obvious reasons.
Posted by patsox834 7 years ago
patsox834
Ok, I have a correction to make:

"I'm explaining that my opponent is the one whose in possession of the burden of proof,"

That should say "I'm explaining that my opponent is the one who's in possession of the burden of proof,"

...not significant in any way -- but it just annoys me whenever someone misuses "who's" or "whose."
Posted by bored 7 years ago
bored
Anyone else excited for September 19th?
Arr!
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
pirates ftw.
Posted by FlashFire 7 years ago
FlashFire
I agree with pro, but con is a much better debater.

Pro, only you have to prove that ninjas are better. All con has to do is prove you wrong, not prove that pirates are better. The burden of proof is on you.
Posted by anotherkid 7 years ago
anotherkid
why doesn't he explain how pirates are better? That should've been why he accepted my challenge, right?
Posted by ninjaraygun 7 years ago
ninjaraygun
Go Pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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