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pierre124
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nothing is information, 0

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Started: 11/14/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

you cant show me 0 bananas
pierre124

Con

nothing =/= 0
0 is a number
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

imagination is not a thing, things are physical and nothing is mental

everything is something, and something is 1, everything is 1, and nothing is 0

0=information

1+0=1, why doesn't it equal 2?
pierre124

Con

why is something one? babby
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

something is not 2 things, and its not nothing
pierre124

Con

why is everything one? everything =/= something, something < everything, something = 1, everything =
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

one could say everything or something defines 1

to say I have 1 soda, is defining what 1 im speaking of

if I say, reality, then that implies 1, not 2, as reality is true, and I could say reality is everything, so everything is 1

also, reality can never be 0, so naturally it goes to 1

everything is matter, matter is 1

any thing is matter, matter is 1
pierre124

Con

reality: The world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
everything: All things; all the things of a group or class.
matter: Physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy.

These 3 things aren't the same thing. You couldn't say reality is everything, as they are different things.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

so everything isn't real? which thing is not real?

anything is real, as things are real and nothing is not

information is the opposite of matter, mental and physical, 0 and 1

0 bananas is not a thing you can have in your hands
pierre124

Con

I said reality, not real
reality: The world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
real: actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed.
everything isn't reality, and everything is real

mental =/= 0, physical =/= 1
mental is a an adjective, 0 isn't an adjective
physical is an adjective, 1 isn't an adjective
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
they might not mean the same but they are the same, one can not exist without the other

show me something that isn't in reality
Posted by pierre124 2 years ago
pierre124
yes, the word reality does not mean the same thing as the word real, the words reality and real aren't the same
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
so your argument is reality is not real, you are just proving my point
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
other ways to see it*
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
hmm i am wrong, something can be 2 things, like sand is something

others ways to see it, is 0 bananas can never be physical, and 1 banana can never be imaginary, because 1 bananas implies its real

like saying matter, then true is implied, matter is not false

if i am lost and really hungry, and i imagine a banana, i still don't have 1 banana
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
where do you SEE in your kitchen that you have NO bananas
Posted by Mike_10-4 2 years ago
Mike_10-4
Thanks for reminding me, I --SEE--, that I have no bananas in my kitchen. Tomorrow I need to go to the store to buy some bananas.

I'm so glad to see Debate.org is going bananas.
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