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ny giants are a better team this year then the dallas cowboys

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/20/2009 Category: Sports
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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comoncents

Pro

ny giants are a better team this year then the dallas cowboys

even madden 2012 has them rated better... romo is over rated and letting go of T.O was the worst thing they could have done!!!!

lets debate
bearsfan

Con

I think I have the spelling and grammar points locked up. Madden 2012 has not been released yet, you could not know how the Giants are rated higher than the Cowboys.

I'll go position by position next round.
Debate Round No. 1
comoncents

Pro

Yeah yeah... wow 2012... i cannot believe i typed that.

Ok so lets break this down by position.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
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Qb.
Romo vs manning
Manning has lead the giants to the preseason every year that he has been a starter.
Manning as won to NFC east championships with one NFC championship.
Manning has lead the giants to the superbowl becoming the MVP as well as going to a probowl in 2008.
Romo has lead his started for 2007 and 2008... he made it to the playoffs and choked as he did in the previous year as a back up. Then failed to return to the playoffs in 2008. That's with having one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.

Rb.
Marion barber is good and Jacobs is comparable in terms of dominance.

Te.
Jason Witten is better then Kevin boss. So 1-1 tie

Offensive line
Giants are known to have one of the best offensive lines in the league returning the same 5 starters that went to the superbowl.
The cowboys returning all 5 starters as well but they all combine for 45 years in nfl experience... so they are on the way down the old hill in the nfl... they tend to get beat and be a lot slower then the year before.

Def.
Dallas does have d.ware but thats about it when it comes to def.
The giants had No. 1-ranked rushing attack in 2008 and have just beefed up the def. even more then ever. With the addition of Chris cant, b. berrian, as well as osi coming back healthy this year.
Linebacker's giants have the advantage.
And secondary is comparable.

So it here goes the wr debate.
Yes as it looks the cowboy do have a better #1 wr as the giants are still looking to name a #1 wr but where the cowboys messed up was letting go of T.O.
Roy Williams is the #1 for Dallas but has only had great numbers when next to a good second wr... this year he does not have a viable second wr that is commanding.
Now the giants do lack wr. But where they lack they make up in potential.
Steve smith will be the #1 rec. which was a great pick up from usc in the second round of the 2007 draft and has been very successful in the slot position. So i turn 2006 draft in the second round where we picked up moss. Then in 2008 draft picked up Mario manningham, which would have been a #1 wr in that draft if not for the smoking of maryjane. Then this year we pick up a #1 wr in nicks who had the best college catch in 2007. As well as the 3rd round pick in ramses barden that is a 6'6" wr. And one of the best in double a. 50 tds in his collge cerrer and 18 consecutive games with a TD reception and breaking the 17 game record he held with Jerry Rice

And coaching is tipped in the giants favor as well with a coach that at least has won a superbowl and playoff games.

There is not much to say other then the giants are a better team... not in every aspect but in the majority
Giants 4-2 as far as comparability in major aspects of the game

http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://en.wikipe...
bearsfan

Con

bearsfan forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
comoncents

Pro

Bears fan is probably just a bears fan and needs to do some research on the to teams... but he should get the grammar points...

It ok... the bears look way better this year... cutler was a great pick up and the receivers seem to be stepping up... i hold to my last argument in the last round

Hope the bears do well...

But vote pro
bearsfan

Con

bearsfan forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
comoncents

Pro

hold the same position

Ok so lets break this down by position.
http://en.wikipedia.org......
http://en.wikipedia.org......

Qb.
Romo vs manning
Manning has lead the giants to the preseason every year that he has been a starter.
Manning as won to NFC east championships with one NFC championship.
Manning has lead the giants to the superbowl becoming the MVP as well as going to a probowl in 2008.
Romo has lead his started for 2007 and 2008... he made it to the playoffs and choked as he did in the previous year as a back up. Then failed to return to the playoffs in 2008. That's with having one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.

Rb.
Marion barber is good and Jacobs is comparable in terms of dominance.

Te.
Jason Witten is better then Kevin boss. So 1-1 tie

Offensive line
Giants are known to have one of the best offensive lines in the league returning the same 5 starters that went to the superbowl.
The cowboys returning all 5 starters as well but they all combine for 45 years in nfl experience... so they are on the way down the old hill in the nfl... they tend to get beat and be a lot slower then the year before.

Def.
Dallas does have d.ware but thats about it when it comes to def.
The giants had No. 1-ranked rushing attack in 2008 and have just beefed up the def. even more then ever. With the addition of Chris cant, b. berrian, as well as osi coming back healthy this year.
Linebacker's giants have the advantage.
And secondary is comparable.

So it here goes the wr debate.
Yes as it looks the cowboy do have a better #1 wr as the giants are still looking to name a #1 wr but where the cowboys messed up was letting go of T.O.
Roy Williams is the #1 for Dallas but has only had great numbers when next to a good second wr... this year he does not have a viable second wr that is commanding.
Now the giants do lack wr. But where they lack they make up in potential.
Steve smith will be the #1 rec. which was a great pick up from usc in the second round of the 2007 draft and has been very successful in the slot position. So i turn 2006 draft in the second round where we picked up moss. Then in 2008 draft picked up Mario manningham, which would have been a #1 wr in that draft if not for the smoking of maryjane. Then this year we pick up a #1 wr in nicks who had the best college catch in 2007. As well as the 3rd round pick in ramses barden that is a 6'6" wr. And one of the best in double a. 50 tds in his collge cerrer and 18 consecutive games with a TD reception and breaking the 17 game record he held with Jerry Rice

And coaching is tipped in the giants favor as well with a coach that at least has won a superbowl and playoff games.

There is not much to say other then the giants are a better team... not in every aspect but in the majority
Giants 4-2 as far as comparability in major aspects of the game

http://en.wikipedia.org......
http://en.wikipe......
bearsfan

Con

bearsfan forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
comoncents

Pro

Well my opponent has not responded, so it would only be fair that you vote pro.

vote pro
bearsfan

Con

bearsfan forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
9 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 9 records.
Posted by Rob1Billion 7 years ago
Rob1Billion
well that last game reinforced this debate a little! Tony Homo completely blew that game.
Posted by comoncents 7 years ago
comoncents
why did you end your name...
what is going on with you
Posted by youguysaredouches 7 years ago
youguysaredouches
I don't like the chicago bears, I like the Blake Bears, I, as a vikings fan, despise the bears.
Posted by comoncents 7 years ago
comoncents
yeah madden 10

just like madden 09 was madden 2009

madden 2010 is called madden 10
Posted by theitalianstallion 7 years ago
theitalianstallion
BTW, you mean 'Madden 2010,' right?
Posted by comoncents 7 years ago
comoncents
Jason Witten is one of the best... and roy was only "good" when all the pressure was not souly on him alone.
Posted by theitalianstallion 7 years ago
theitalianstallion
Roy Williams should be improved, Jason Witten is still one of the best TE's in the league, the defense hasn't gone anywhere; the Cowboys will suprise people.

The Giants have lost their top two receivers and have yet to replace them; no matter how much money they pay Eli, he won't magically become his brother; some questions at TE; Defense will still be great, but the Giants will have a much tougher road this season compared to last.
Posted by comoncents 7 years ago
comoncents
dude... he is a good player... letting him go will be the down fall to there year
Posted by Rob1Billion 7 years ago
Rob1Billion
Letting go of T.O. was a great idea, I think. He may be a tall monster of a receiver but he wasn't that spectacular last year because he was too busy crying and whining and b*tching about everything. He causes too much drama for the team... It's kind of like breaking up with a hot chick because she is high maintenance. Everyone else will think you are crazy, but you will know that the b*tch wasn't worth it and you can do better. He is a sore loser as well as a sore winner and he really bastardizes the fans who root for the Cowboys. How can you actually feel good rooting for T.O.? It's kind of like wanting to root for the bad guy in a movie who is a lying raping murdering coward... It just doesn't work. Maybe Witten won't be running in the wrong direction every other play now that there is less drama on the field!
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