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Trueredneckuser
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laker7745
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obama care. is it good or bad?

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laker7745
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/14/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Trueredneckuser

Pro

I am looking for a debate on whether obamacare is good for the economy or bad.
laker7745

Con

No Obamacare is not good for the economy, the CBO has just released reports stating that Obamcare will cost up to 2.5 million jobs on the low end. In addition premiums have gone up according to Forbes magazine when a 21 year old male would have had to pay 144$ premiums he will now have to pay 261$, now lets look at a 64-year old male wen his monthly premiums would be 515$ before Obamacare now it would be 806$, all of these personal expenses it is estimated that Obamacare will cost the United States $2.8 Trillion Dollars and it's not as if we need to be spending that much, all of this is just getting going and it's not to say how harmful it could be to the Nation as a whole. A Republic and Capitalist style-system do not guarantee everyone healthcare, that is a socialist government, Obamacare is very bad economically.
Debate Round No. 1
Trueredneckuser

Pro

firstly I thank you for accepting my debate.

And secondly over 100 million American's have already benefited from the new health care law. this includes more than 105 million people who accessed critical preventive services for a free that had previously been subject to out of pocket costs, billions of dollars saved for seniors from the gradual closing of the medicare part. billions saved from new accountability measures for insurance companies, and much more.
laker7745

Con

Firstly, the statement,"that over 100 million people have been helped" that claim is total unsupported and false, in fact 5 million people have had their health plans cancelled under Obamacare and that's compared to only 3.3 million who have enrolled in the program according the NY Post, so 100 million is very inaccurate and Obamacare is not helping thus far.
Debate Round No. 2
Trueredneckuser

Pro

Trueredneckuser forfeited this round.
laker7745

Con

You cannot claim false facts, as of this moment with respect to the question you asked, if we put the money that we put towards Obamacare toward Defense, Space, Education, and Infrastructure it would me one million times better used, Obamacare is not good for the economy.
Debate Round No. 3
Trueredneckuser

Pro

Trueredneckuser forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Trueredneckuser

Pro

Trueredneckuser forfeited this round.
laker7745

Con

Argument done then.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Abominminded 3 years ago
Abominminded
It's just the issue no one wants to be forced to join it should just be offered but Obama got his henchmen to replace some misteor so no one voted for Obama care , You know if your child gets hurt or something its a good system that they never refuse anyone here but on the other look their bribing us with a crumb when we should have the whole biscuit by now. Who prices this stuff , healthcare, College, Military vehicles , I know a doctor does not make thousands of dollars an hour so where does this money go! Then they treat anyone on a heath plan gov like they don't have the same rights to medication or something. so diagnosis for an private HMO broken ribs he goes home with a bottle of pain pills same diagnosis for the Obama slave carian but I almost guarantee they wont rite that person a script! Or they end up paying for worth;ess meds but wont fulfill the docs prescription, insurance no MD
Posted by Jifpop09 3 years ago
Jifpop09
If one of you sources it is a free point.
Posted by Jifpop09 3 years ago
Jifpop09
If one of you sources it is a free point.
Posted by Jifpop09 3 years ago
Jifpop09
If one of you sources it is a free point.
Posted by Jifpop09 3 years ago
Jifpop09
Another one of these...
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Vote Placed by GaryBacon 3 years ago
GaryBacon
Trueredneckuserlaker7745Tied
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's arguments were more convincing, since he was able to rebut the claims of Pro. He also gets conduct, since Pro forfeited several rounds. He gets sources, since he is the only one that gave sources.