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pyrokaroba
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mathman987
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obamacare is bad

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Started: 4/10/2013 Category: Economics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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pyrokaroba

Pro

obamacare should be revoked because it bankrupts Americans who have children and senior citizens. i speak for my fellow American when i say kick Obama out and put someone who is actually trust worthy in office. Plus do you want someone who is part Muslim in office, well do you. no [ethnophaulism removed] in office.

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mathman987

Con

I accept this challenge and look forward to a great debate. I wish my opponent the best of luck. When it says bad, are we to look at all connotations, including economic and social?
Debate Round No. 1
pyrokaroba

Pro

obama has ruin national politics and the fact with him in office children cant get decent lunch's, for example my nice was in the hospital because of what she ate at school that day. if anyone says it isn't what cause her to get sick, her mother had doctors run every single test to see what wrong. so anyone who has a child or niece or nephew you understand the emotional stress for them, and the fact that they have barely anything is because they had to sell most of there stuff to pay for the bill. what insurance did they have, that right obamacare.
mathman987

Con

First of all, I give my condolences to your niece and her family and wish her that she will have or had a successful, prompt recovery.

Secondly, I would like to thank pyrokaroba once again for creating this debate and wish my opponent the best of luck in later rounds.

Third, I want to apologize beforehand about the lack of formatting options. I tried to use numerical superscripts for my sources; however, the program wouldn't allow it, instead there is a regularly formatted number. So, when you see a number "floating around", remember it's for the sources. Thanks.

Now into the debate. I will first go into the intentions of the Patient Protection and the Affordable Care Act (hereinafter, "PPACA"), colloquially known as "Obamacare". The "PPACA" was an attempt to resolve many difficult problems facing our nation: the large number of citizens without proper health insurance (49.9 million without insurance 1 and 38 million with inadequate coverage 2), the inability for citizens with pre-existing conditions to acquire health insurance (129 million Americans have a pre existing condition and 25 million citizens with pre existing conditions have no insurance 3), the vast amount of people being dropped by their insurer, the ability for insurers to remove a child from the insurance policy because of the child"s age 4 (Roughly 30% of 26 year olds have no coverage 5, and the inequality of price among the sexes (More than 90 percent of the best-selling health plans charge women more than men 6), among others. And fortunately, we can say that the "PPACA" has and is in the process of accomplishing those goals. "PPACA" gives 47 million women access to preventive care they would otherwise not have had, and illegalizes gender discrimination of health insurance premiums.7 Additionally, among holders of private insurance, 54 million now have access to preventive services without cost sharing due.7 Furthermore, from 2010 to 2011, we saw the largest decrease of uninsured Americans, a drop from 16.3% to 15.7%, the largest decrease since 1999.7 Moreover, the "PPACA" has expanded Medicaid to over 15 million low-earning Americans.7 In addition, the "PPACA" allows the distribution of tax-credits for purchase of health insurance to individuals who qualify.8 All of those are beneficial to our health care system and to individuals. The "PPACA" makes health care more accessible and more affordable. It mandates that employers with over 50 employees offer some form of health insurance to employees, resulting in more options for individuals.9 In fact, Chris Yura, CEO of SustainU, states that the "PPACA" will benefit him as an employer by having ""... a more standardized way of comparing, evaluating, and purchasing our health insurance plan to gain a better understanding into the coverage and the cost associated." ... "I believe this new system can lend greater insight into the plans and ultimately better coverage at more affordable prices"".9 All of that equates to a better overall system of health care.

I will save my rebuttals until the next round.

I realize that the following is not in the correct, proper format; however, it still functions in displaying my sources.

1. http://www.cnn.com...
2. http://www.pbs.org...
3. http://www.healthcare.gov...
4. http://cciio.cms.gov...
5. http://money.cnn.com...
6. http://www.theatlanticwire.com...
7. http://obamacarefacts.com...
8. http://obamacarefacts.com...
9. http://news.yahoo.com...
Debate Round No. 2
pyrokaroba

Pro

Thank you, and after so good debating with you both our arguments are valid and both true. I must ask this to my fellow Americans, our country was founded when they didn't even have health care and over years it was developed and improved, but since obama is in office he has abused the power that American have given him. he puts us in debt by giving out free phones and free stuff everywhere. he is one major factor why our country has gone down the drain. India has a better government than us right now, so what I am trying to say is are we gonna take it when china invades or will we throw out obama and make this country how it was in its glory days.
Now I turn it over to you.
mathman987

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
pyrokaroba

Pro

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mathman987

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
pyrokaroba

Pro

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mathman987

Con

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by pyrokaroba 4 years ago
pyrokaroba
first of all he is the genetic background of his father states that his father was which by genetic law he is one too. and no sir I am not arrogant.
Posted by jeunine 4 years ago
jeunine
Really did you actually just say part muslim?!! I dont even have words. Arrogant.
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