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Freeman
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pc is better than mac

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/3/2009 Category: Technology
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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fouru

Pro

PC is better than mac because WINDOWS IS MORE COMPATIBLE. Let's face it people, all software out there support windows.

Do you want less clicks??? Well windows have Better keyboard shortcuts

Windows is more customizable, you can make your windows look like mac, linux, and much more.
Freeman

Con

Let me begin by thanking fouru for starting this debate. Hopefully this will be useful to college students and others in the market for a computer.

*Case Con: Rebuttals*

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Contention 1: Windows is more compatible.
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"PC is better than mac because WINDOWS IS MORE COMPATIBLE. Let's face it people, all software out there support windows… Windows is more customizable, you can make your windows look like mac, linux, and much more."

Both of these points may be true, but they are simply irrelevant because Macs can run windows natively. [1]

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Contention 2: Windows has better keyboard shortcuts.
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"Do you want less clicks??? Well windows have Better keyboard shortcuts"

This assertion is simply unwarranted. Macs shortcuts are just as good, if not better, than those used on a windows PC. [2]

*Case Con*

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Contention 1: Macs are less likely to get viruses than PCs.
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PCs are notorious for how susceptible they are to getting viruses. [3]-[4] This has been a continuous problem for windows based PCs and will likely continue to be a problem in the foreseeable future. However, most of the viruses out there simply don't affect Macs. Therefore, Macs are better because they are less likely to get these harmful and destructive viruses.

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Contention 2: Macs are more reliable than PCs.
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Try as hard as you want, it is very difficult to crash a Mac. I suppose this could be done if you were to put lots of effort into it, but it still remains true that PCs are more likely to stall, crash, and experience system failures than Macs. Consequently, many different people have worked together to try to overcome these problems. [5]-[6] This has been a particularly pernicious problem given how integral computer use is to the lives of so many people. If you are a college student in the middle of writing a paper and your PC crashes you're out of luck unless you backed up your data on some external source. Therefore, Macs are simply better than PCs because they are more dependable when you have important work to get done.

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Contention 3: Macs are more user friendly than PCs.
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Macs have a much more intuitive operating system that doesn't load your computer up with lots of useless programs. [7] Moreover, the general design of Apple computers and products makes them much easier to use for both the young and the old. For example, Apple is releasing a very interesting new mouse that is far more intuitive and easier to operate than most traditional mice that PCs use. [8]

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Contention 4: Macs are more stylish than PCs.
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Style is certainly a subjective quality, but most people will agree that the overall aesthetic design of Mac computers is superior to that of PCs. [9] They are built much simpler and have an overall uniform composure that makes them look far more sleek and sophisticated than traditional bulky PCs.

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Contention 5: Macs have better customer service than PCs.
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The experts and the customers both agree that Apple computers have much better customer service than windows PCs. According to the Forrester Research's 2008 customer experience index approximately 80% of all Mac owners gave apple a "good" customer service rating for their service of Mac computers. Indeed, no other brands of PCs even came close to this. [10] So, not only are Apple's Macs more reliable than PC's, the customer service is better when you actually do have a problem.

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Conclusion
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Macs are not only more stylish than PCs, they are much more reliable, easier to operate, and less prone to getting viruses. Moreover, my opponent has failed to provide any compelling argument in favor of the resolution that PCs are better than Macs. Therefore, we can reasonably conclude that PCs are objectively not better than Macs. (Resolution Negated)

---References---

[1] http://www.apple.com...
[2] http://support.apple.com...
[3] http://www.usatoday.com...
[4] Youtube Video
[5] http://forums.techguy.org...
[6] http://www.downloadatoz.com...
[7] http://apcmag.com...
[8] http://www.apple.com...
[9] http://www.apple.com...
[10] http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 1
fouru

Pro

Lets put it this way.... Macs are like little bikes and PC is like a Car. It is obvious that you are going to get more technical and have more problem on a car (PC) than bikes (MAC), but if you treat your computer well instead of watching porn, downloading game from pirate websites, and hacking people it would all be okay.

(Macs are less likely to get viruses than PCs.) Macs do get virus. Don't trust everything in media. 1. Get a PC 2. Save alot of money :)

(Macs are more stylish than PCs.)
I really don't agree to the fact Macs are more stylish than PCs. There are a lot of software that enables you to change your computer theme and visualization. You are even able to make XP look like vista or Mac or even linux. And take a good look at windows 7 and enjoy the view.

(Macs are more reliable than PCs.) Now I will agree on one thing that PC crashes more BUT it has more hardware and probably supports more ram as well. Windows are able to have 24GB ram (Alienware, Ibuypower)

(Macs have better customer service than PCs.) Ahhhhh! more old friend Windows Vista. You know it would pretty much be obvious that Mac will have better result in Customer service IN 2008, That's when windows vista came out. Back then programs and hardware wasn't really great with Vista and many people have been stressed and SO DOES MICROSOFT. Let us wait until 2010 and see what will happen. My PREDICTION is that Windows 7 will be one of the greatest OS. No more stress for PC user and Microsoft

Macs are really great OS but it isn't great enough to beat PC.

I will be waiting for your response
Freeman

Con

I wish to thank fouru for his very quick response.

*Case Con: Rebuttals*

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Contention 1: Macs are less likely to get viruses than PCs.
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"(Macs are less likely to get viruses than PCs.) Macs do get virus. Don't trust everything in media."

This is true. However, you've left the basis of my argument unscathed. Macs can get a virus, but they are far less likely to get them than PCs. Consequently, they are much better in this aspect than PCs.

"It is obvious that you are going to get more technical and have more problem on a car (PC) than bikes (MAC), but if you treat your computer well instead of watching porn, downloading game from pirate websites, and hacking people it would all be okay."

This assertion is demonstrably false. PCs can get viruses from rather banal activities, such as checking email. [1] Moreover, your own argument undermines the resolution you have set up. Both men and women enjoy watching porn and downloading pirated games. Therefore, if anyone values porn or illegal games then they ought to buy a Mac according to your own argument. By your own admission, a Mac is clearly better for these activities.

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Contention 2: Macs are more reliable than PCs.
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"Now I will agree on one thing that PC crashes more BUT it has more hardware and probably supports more ram as well. Windows are able to have 24GB ram (Alienware, Ibuypower)"

My opponent has conceded the basis of this argument. Macs are simply more reliable than PCs. Moreover, I have already shown that the tech support for Macs is better than that given to PCs. Furthermore, having additional ram isn't going to be of any help when your PC becomes infected with a serious virus.

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Contention 3: Macs are more user friendly than PCs.
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My opponent hasn't responded to this claim. So, allow my argument to carry over.

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Contention 4: Macs are more stylish than PCs.
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"There are a lot of software that enables you to change your computer theme and visualization."

This is simply another irrelevant argument. Macs also have settings that allow you to change the theme on the computer. It would appear that you have failed to understand my argument. I was arguing that the actual physical composure and design of a Mac is much more stylish than that of a PC.

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Contention 5: Macs have better customer service than PCs.
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" You know it would pretty much be obvious that Mac will have better result in Customer service IN 2008… My PREDICTION is that Windows 7 will be one of the greatest OS. No more stress for PC user and Microsoft"

The mere addition of time is not going to improve the customer service given to PCs. Moreover, given the track record of Microsoft's old operating systems there is no reason to think that Windows 7 is going to be anything special. [2] Furthermore, you can't make an argument about something that hasn't been established. We will find out later on how Windows 7 actually turns out. Therefore, this argument is irrelevant at any rate.

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Conclusion
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My opponent has failed to defend his original three arguments and has been unable to mount a successful counter argument to any of my five contentions. Indeed, he more or less concedes two of my central arguments. Writing anymore at this moment would simply be exasperating the point.

---References---

[1]http://www.pcworld.com...

[2] Youtube Video
Debate Round No. 2
fouru

Pro

fouru forfeited this round.
Freeman

Con

My opponent has conceded two of my arguments and has forfeited his last round. There is only one conclusion we can draw from this…
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by fouru 7 years ago
fouru
i am sorry freeman. I didn't mean to forfeit a round!
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
And, though it didn't matter for the voting, I really liked the videos Freeman! :)
Posted by Chrysippus 7 years ago
Chrysippus
Con makes a good case for the Apple computers, and Pro concedes by silence; both dropping arguments and forfeiting.

Pro's grammar and format is substandard.

Points for both these sections go to Con.
Posted by LadleyA 7 years ago
LadleyA
Different Operating Systems are better for different things. Windows is better for buisness, budget and gaming. OS X is better for Media, security, secureness and style. In the future creative media is going to become more important, so i think that Macs are better!
Posted by Freeman 7 years ago
Freeman
Almost done...
Posted by fouru 7 years ago
fouru
dude come on!!!!!!!
Posted by fouru 7 years ago
fouru
ok... i don't care if i lose the debate... i do it for fun
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
fouru, Freeman is going to hand it to you, and it will not be pretty. You made the time period for posting debates several days, and Freeman will certainly post. He is going to own you, sorry ;)
Posted by Freeman 7 years ago
Freeman
Sorry for the delay.

I'm busy with school, but I should be done with this later on tonight.
Posted by fouru 7 years ago
fouru
is my opponent going to debate with me or not??? plz don't waste my time
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