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james94
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manishagni2004
Con (against)
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3 Points

peace is the way not war for independent govt.

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Started: 11/27/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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james94

Pro

I think that we as a society should have an independent government and an independent congress due to the fact that niether the Democratic or Republican party have gotten anything accomplished as promised.

I find that an independent party would be beneficial to society, due to the fact that our country needs a change in direction ,due to the finances ,economy and the oil crisis here in America.

As a voter I would ask for more of a say in our government . I think there should be more peace in our lands. I also believe in freedom for the worlds , also I believe in opportunity in all of our lands.
manishagni2004

Con

In this presenrt scenario it is quite difficult to make a govt with peace,coz of some of parties or i can say supported by some countries.in the path of making independent government war is always there which we have to accept and fight.
Debate Round No. 1
james94

Pro

The independent party stands for freedom and peace . I am strongly in favor of peace and freedom. That is just an opinion . Next please

Peace and freedom are just two of the things that the independent party stands for . I think that this world should stand up and fight for these rights. I also find that an independent president and an independent government would be beneficial to the United States. We as a nation should fight for these things due to the fact that we live in a country that does not care about these kind of things. Next please.

Now that the issue of what the independent party stands for is settled let's talk about the taxes that they put on us now. I think that the reduction of taxes would be beneficial because of the economy and the people that pay taxes. Next Please.

After careful thought I have come to have the opinion that we need to pay less taxes and form an independent government. All for now.
manishagni2004

Con

my dear i can understand which u r like to explian but if we think practically just like me sometimes u need to do self defence which is not at all war.sometimes for the sake of peace and freedom u have to take some crucial actions.
Debate Round No. 2
james94

Pro

Going back to what I stated in my last argument I still find that an independent government would be beneficial to this nation because we need something and someone that would do what they promise . Next Please.

I find that the Independent Party would do just that . Also I am still for peace and freedom also justice.This means that I think that on a as you clearly stated a practical note we should vote for those that would be in favor of freedom in all respects. Next Please.

Due to the lack of people in the government that share these views , We as a nation have no say in peace or freedom , We as a nation should be more into what our leaders do and say on our behalf that is just a suggestion to the world.

As for the rest of the world our leaders should sit down in neutral territory and try to come up with a solution to the real problem which is as I have stated previously is freedom and peace. Next Please.

As a result I think that we can come to some kind of compromise if we have an independent president and government. All for now.
manishagni2004

Con

manishagni2004 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by magpie 9 years ago
magpie
Sarsin should read his history book. Rush may have said it, but he didn't invent it. Peace is not a thing you can vote for - and get. It happens to thaose who are prepared for and willing to fight a war. It's the other guy who decides that there will or will not be a war. Our strength if the only real deterent to war.
Posted by sarsin 9 years ago
sarsin
You must listen to Rush, because that bit about Munich is almost verbatim from his show.

The important thing to take away from that example is that peaceful resolutions should be attempted before you start a war. You seem to take away from this example that we should not even try and immediately go straight to a military solution.
Posted by Solarman1969 9 years ago
Solarman1969
We do need more parties, but you are naive at best with your pollyanna logic, that I hear from most of the left, that we need "peace", not "war"

remember what was brought back to England after the munich conference in 1938? "peace in our time"- what a farce!

Also, the reason why this congress is not doing anything is the democrats. period. they have blathered over Iraq for the entire year, and have passed no important bills.

Finally, my question is - to you see Islam as a threat?

Is it possible to have peace with a group that wants you dead? no matter what ? no negotation possible?
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
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What are the opinions of your independant party, to which you propose and/or are a part of?
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