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"pedophile" is a Blasphemy on Honored Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)

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In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful.

I Testify there is no god worthy of worship but Allah, and Muhammad(P.B.U.H) was his servant and Messenger.
This will surly not be the first time that Readers would have encountered this statement over the Internet?

The Blasphemy of "pedophile" on Respected and Honored Prophet Muhammad(P B U H).

This is Regarding His Marriage with Lady Aisha(PBUH) proposed by a Lady upon the request of Aisha's Parents while Aisha's Previous Engagement Broke with someone else!

People without knowing the Truth and constantly ignoring actual Facts to fulfil the ache of "Jealousy" go on saying this ugly statement.

Does anyone cares to know the truth before saying something?

Is it not our right to know the truth? Why the injustice? People who mock Islam in the name of Justice and Peace why do they ignore the true facts and speak what they know not?

The Glorious Quran on this Evil Subject says:

"Oh ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest you harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what you have done (49:6).

“Do not concern yourself with things about which you have no knowledge. Verily, your hearing, sight, and heart -- all of them will be called to account" (17:36)

Same Powerful Statements to Condemn this Evil can be found in Quran at;

Those who speak against Muhammad (PBUH) do they have a single time read or heard His True Message?

You do not even have to be a Muslim to follow his advice!

The Topic: "pedophile" is a Blasphemy on Honored Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)

Quran testifies:
"Indeed, you(O Muhammad) certainly bear the highest moral character."

but what big deal if Muhammad PBUH's Quran speaks about him?

So Let us Turn the Pages of History:

We find some of the BASIC FACTS in which Even Non-Muslims Scholars have NO DOUBT!

He was the most honest and fair of all the people living in his community. None was respected more for honesty, integrity, sobriety and humbleness. As Much that His Enemies of All the Tribes called him "The Honest" "The Trustworthy"

The Proof are following Two Incident by with Non-Muslims one from Early life & other from later.
  • “O Quraish! If I say that an army is advancing on you from behind the mountains, will you believe me?” All said in one voice, “Yes; because we have never heard you telling a lie”. (1)

  • When the Roman Emperor[Hercules] received a letter from the Prophet inviting him and his followers to Islam, he called the Arab traders who were then in Syria for trade. He asked Abu Sufyan(A fiercest enemies at the time), their leader, “Did you ever find Muhammad telling a lie before his claim to Prophet Hood?” He replied that he had not, and then the emperor said, “I asked you if he had ever told a lie and you replied that he had not. I am sure, if he had spoken unjustly against God, he would not have abstained from speaking falsely against human-beings.” The emperor then questioned him about the Prophet’s general behavior and conduct with people. Abu Sufyan replied “Muhammad is nobly born; is honest and truthful, and has never broken a pledge. He enjoins his followers to worship none but One God and to pray to Him alone. He preaches kindness, piety and tolerance towards all and his followers are on the increase” (2)

Moreover There is not a Single Incident has been reported by even Any Non-Muslim Historians aagainst any of the following FACTS:
  • Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) had no bad habits and did not engage in drinking or relations with women, although it was common place amongst his people. (ARABs The Wildest Sex Beasts)

  • He never took a girlfriend nor a mistress in his life and never even attended parties or the like at anytime in his life. He Never had illegal Sex and Never had any relationship with anyone till the age of 25! Though it was most common practice

  • His first personal encounter with a woman was his own wife, Khadijah upon Her Request(When she found Him The Best Men in Arabs [She was an Arab Queen and a Business Woman]), and that was for marriage. He was 25 years old and she was 15 years older (40).

  • He was only married to Khadijah until her death at the age of 65 years old.

  • There was a long time of mourning and sadness during which he was offered marriage to several women of their families which he Refused.

  • When The First Proposal of Marriage for "Lady Aisha (PBUH)" He did not accept the first offer of marriage to Aisha when her father had come to him with the proposal, instead he married an older, large woman named Sawdah.

  • Aisha had been offered in marriage and engaged prior to being offered to the prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. That marriage never took place.

  • When Aisha was older, again her father offered her in marriage and the proposal was accepted.

  • The whole family was happily involved and most elated in having the prophet of God as their close relative through marriage.

  • It was a Public Marriage and was attended by Non-Muslims also and not Even a Single Person from ENEMIES who would not hesitate at to Kill Him or Exiled Him from a Country.

  • Aisha herself was very happy with this marriage as is evidenced by the hundreds of teachings she later related after his death (peace and blessings be upon him).

  • It was a successful Marriage as Reported By Ayesha Her own self. She Loved Him Intensely. Even After His Marriage and Never Ever had a jot against Muhammad PBUH!

  • According to Islamic Laws:
    • "Everyone has aFree will to Marry anyone"
    • "Marriage against Free will is Prohibited in Islam" (3)
    • If any of two people Disagrees the Marriage is "ANNULED"(4)
    • "Even If a person has been given into Marriage He/She only has to say that "He is not willing to take or continue this marriage" in order to ANNUL The Marriage!
    • At a Moment Muhammad(PBUH) Himself allowed All His wives to leave the Marriage If They will to do so they will be Instead Given "Wealth".
    • The Requirement of Marriage According to Islam is:
        • Person's and Parents Consent!
        • Age of Puberty & Intellect
        • Witnesses!
        • Ayesha was Fulfilling all the Requirements of Marriage!

1] Sahih Al-Bukhari:4971
2] Sahih Al-Bukhari:2941

What said The Non-Muslim Historian who really Read Muhammad (PBUH)'s Life and History and Culture about Him?:

Read what is Commonly found on Internet by the following personas:
  1. Lamartine -Histoire de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol II, pp. 276-77.
  • Nepolean Bonaparte –Quoted in Christian Cherfils BONAPARTE ET ISLAM (PARIS 1914).

  • M.K.Gandhi, YOUNG INDIA, 1924.

  • Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay - History of the Saracen Empire, London, 1870, p. 54.

  • Rev. Bosworth Smith, Mohammed and Mohammadanism, London 1874, p. 92.

  • Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad, Madras 1932, p. 4.

  • Montgomery Watt, Mohammad at Mecca, Oxford 1953, p. 52.

  • James A. Michener, 'Islam: The Misunderstood Religion' in Reader's Digest (American Edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70.

  • Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc. 1978, p. 33: (Ranks Muhammad PBUH No. 1).

  • Sarojini Naidu, the famous Indian poetess says – S. Naidu, Ideals of Islam, Speeches and Writings, Madras, 1918.

  • Thomas Carole – Heros and Heros Worship.

  • Stanley Lane-Poole – Table Talk of the Prophet.

  • George Bernard Shaw - The Genuine Islam Vol.No.8, 1936.

  • Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Mr. Tony Blair.

  • Yushudi Kusan: Director of the Tokyo Observatory

I can go on Listing 100s of Historians who acutally read the Islamic and Muhammad's History are Really Convinced that it is not a Wrong Religion. and Indeed Muhammad PBUH was Most Exalted Person in History. Hence the Claim that He has done something against Modesty

Let us See The History about Marriage and Christianity:

  • Child brides as young as 8 (Eight) were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! were they all Pedophile? (4)

  • Mary got pregnant between the ages of 11 and 14. WAS GOD HIMSELF PHE*****?(5)

  • The minimum age for marriage in the US-State of Delaware until year 1880 was 7. Yes "SEVEN" Was whole Delaware and US Govt. Was Pedophile until 1880? (6)

  • According to the Jewish Talmud, Prophet Moses and his followers had sex with girls as young as 3 years old.You read it right.(God Forbid) Were They all Pedophile?(7)

  • Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary! Was he too a pedophile? (5)

  • More if You read "THE BIBLE" is full of "COMPELTELY PHEDO"

I Leave it to Christians, Jews and Readers to Answer who Think that Muhammad PBUH was "Phedo***".

(all references are Non-Islamic Source)


5] Marriage of Mary to Joseph, Catholic Encyclopaedia;

6] of Delaware Marriage age *7* Years

7] According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, Moses therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations."
"Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."

"A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."....."


  • Do not go out of context!
  • Do not use Dirty Language!
  • Whatever you speak Cite Evidence!
  • No New Arguments in Last Round.
  • Be Precise and To-The-Point.

I will Prove that Ayesha was not a Child while she got Married and It was not an Illegal Marriage! According to Islam and Whole World!

I Look for Response for My Challenge!

Further Resources;

Disclaimer: I apologize to Noble Chrisitans and Non-Muslism that I had to use their Books for Reference Please Excuse Me Purpose is not to Attack Anyone.


My opponent's wordy repertoire is mostly irrelevant. This only contention I have made is that the Islamic "prophet" Muhammad (Six Feet of Dirt is Upon Him), was in fact a pedophile. My opponent, rather than rebutting this, has listed other historical examples of pedophilia, both personal and cultural.

A Pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children.[1]

A child is a person between birth and full growth. [2]

Aisha was nine years old when the "prophet" had sexual relations with her, therefore, this "prophet" was in fact, by definition, a pedophile.

Debate Round No. 1


In the name of Allah Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Points to be Noted:

1. Con has disrespected My Honored and Beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) [Conduct Lost]

Even being a Christian [1], believes the people I cited all were "pedophilia"

Including "GOD (Pardon), US Govt. , Whole State of Delaware, In Jewish Talmud Prophet Moses(peace be upon him) and His Followers and Joseph Step Father of Jesus(peace be upon him).

No Source Provided for the Argument that Prophet Muhammad PBUH had sexual relationship with a child to fit in the provided definition of "pedophile" [Ipse dixit--aka Baseless Assertion (2)]

Ipse dixit: Latin for "He, himself, said it," is a term used to identify and describe a sort of arbitrary dogmatic statement which the speaker expects the listener to accept as valid.[1] It is also called "the bare assertion fallacy." (2)

So I start with the Laws of Marriage in Quran & Islam:

According to Islamic Law.

1. Consent of Male and Female is required.

2. They should Hit the Age of Puberty (Adulthood!)

3. They should be Sane and Independent

4. Two Sane Witnesses

these are most important requirement of Islamic Marriage! (8)

Definition of Puberty:

Wiki & Google say: The period during which adolescents reach sexual maturity and become capable of reproduction.(9)

that clearly means contrary to presented defination of Child a person who has entered adulthood! and medically the age varies Place to Place and Time to Time... but normally in Girls it is 10-12 years.. (10)

I would like to Remind My Contender that My Honored Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) Never ever had any kind of Illiegal or Sexual Affair Ever in His Life.. and This allegation is also regarding "Marraige" not about a sexual relation as He accused!

Still since He claims that the Age of Ayesha(peace be upon Her) was "9" years old let us investigate the claim was she really 9 years old when she got "Legally Married" to Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him).

He has not cited the Narration which claims that she was 9 years old..

but I will cite and refute His Claim Categorically.


Its important to state something before continuing.

Quran's Islam's Most Sacred Text:

Muslim belief that Quran is Direct verbatim of God and have not a Single Contradiction or Doubt of Authenticity since it was whole "written down" in the presence of Muhammad(PBUH) and checked and preserved... there is not a single conflict proved in the whole Quran in 1500 Years!

Hadeeth "Narration of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH):

A collection of traditions containing sayings and deeds of the prophet Muhammad and are considered Most Authentic Islamic Text after Quran..

It can be called Biography of Muhammad PBUH compiled by His First followers Hadeeth were compiled in between the presence and around 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) there were many many Hadeeth but only those were chosen which were most authentic with extreme cares.

But there might be a possibility that Human have been mistaken unknowingly(Contrary to Divine Quran) so a new branch of literature was established called "Science of Hadeeth"

If ever any of two narrations are conflicting with each other then they were carefully examined and their sources are thoroughly researched and it is decided which is more reliable!

So let us proceed keeping this in Mind.


The Hadeeth My Contender is talking about is as following:

Narrated by Hisham's father

"Khadija (first wife of Prophet Muhammad) died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old."


1. All the Hadeeth collected of this context by Bukhari are reported by Hisham ibn'urwah reporting on the authority of his father. No Other have reported this.

2. Hisham ibn'urwah lived the first 71 Years in Madinah yet strangely not even one out of his more than 130 students from Madinah reported this including well known "Malik ibn Anas" narrator of a large number of Hadeeth.

3. If we read History Yaqub ibn Shaibah in his book said "He [Hisham] is highly reliable, his narratives are acceptable, except what he narrated after moving over to Iraq." (3)


4. "When he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly" says Mizanu'l-ai'tidal, Al-Zahbi

Hence we have enough reason to doubt His Narration because in his Late Age He Suffered Alzheimer's Badly.

It can be depicted as following



So let us look what age is reflected many other sources Including Ayesha(PBUH) herself...


a. Its a well known fact that Ayesha's Father was First Male who accepted Islam in First Year when Muhammad (PBUH) claimed Prophet hood ~ 611 A.D (6)

b. Its a well known fact that their Marriage was held after migration to Madinah from Mecca. (7)

c. Its a well known fact that Muhammad (PBUH) stayed 10 years in Mecca and Migrated to Madinah in ~622 A.D. (5)

So lets see the following Hadeeth.

"(the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet (PBUH) visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abu Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur'an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Qur'an. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Qur'an)."

Points to Note:

1. She said She attained the age of Puberty when she saw first time that Her Parents have adopted Islam.

i.e. at least in first year of Islam (611 A.D) she was at least 9 years old.

2. Its talking about Pagan Women.

Maccan Pagans & Quraish were in Mecca only not in Madinah and the Hadeeth is of first years of Islam that proves that Hadith is about Macca Time.

3. She is living in His Parents’ house Clearly shows that she was not married yet!

Now Since the marriage was held after 10 years in Madinah after Migration(7) which will become (622 A.D).

So at the Time of Marriage the Age of Ayesha was 8+10 i.e. not less then "17" years!


According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal,

"After the death of Khadijah (PUBH), when (A Lady) Khaulah (PUBH) came to the Prophet (PBUH) advising him to marry again, the Prophet (PBUH) asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)".When the Prophet (PBUH) asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Ayesha's (PBUH) name.

And in the Arabic language, the word "bikr" is not used for an immature nine year old girl.

The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady". (12)


1. Ayesha's Elder Sister Asma was 10 Years elder then Her as we see in Ref. (13)

2. Asma died in 72nd or 73rd Year of Migration at the Age of 100 Years (14)

3. So According to this The Age of Asma (elder sister of Ayesha) in 1st Year of Migration will be 27 or 28 Years.

3. Hence the Age of Ayesha cannot be less than 18 Years! at the time of Marraige! because They Married in First Year of Migration.


There is only one person who suffered memory loss said that she was "9" years old.

Since He is unrelible we have no way except to see other avilable evidence regarding Her age.

3. We have here three(there are more but I mentioned 3 only) 100% unrefutable proof that She was not less then 18 Years at the age of Marraige..

So she was ofcourse not a Child at the time of Marraige.

Conclusion follows the Facts...

"pedophile" is a Blasphemy on Honored Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H)


[x] Please excuse me for English.

[1] (See comments of His profile please)


3] Tehzibu'l-tehzib,(vol 11, pg 48 - 51)

4] (Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, Al-Zahbi, Arabic, Al-Maktabatu'l-athriyyah, Sheikhupura, Pakistan, Vol 4, pg 301)



7] Sahih Bukari Vol. 5 Bk. 58 No. 234 .. "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down..."






13] Abda'l-Rahman ibn abi zanna'd: Asma (ra) was ten years older than Ayesha. (Siyar A`la'ma'l-nubala', Al-Zahabi, Vol 2, Pg 289, Arabic, Mu'assasatu'l-risalah, Beirut, 1992)

Ibn Kathir Tells the Same

14] Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani: "She [Asma (ra)] lived a hundred years and died in 73 or 74 AH." (Taqribu'l-tehzib, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, Pg 654, Arabic, Bab fi'l-nisa', al-harfu'l-alif, Lucknow)

I would never ever say that about Even Christian God or people of other relgion what my contender has said about his own relgion. Please I apologize to All people on behalf of Him also.

Thanks for Read.


"Indeed, You (O Muhammad) certainly bear the highest moral character. (Quran 64:4)"



Here are some videos of Muslim scholars who reject the interpretation you have offered above. The first is the most compelling, because this scholar states there are SEVEN, not one, but SEVEN, hadiths, many narrated by Aisha herself, which state she was betrothed at the age of six, and that the marriage was consummated when she was 9. He also states that "weak Muslims" attempt to claim she was eighteen because they are afraid to confront Christians with the truth.
Debate Round No. 2


In the name of Allah Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

I would like to tell the readers the reason of debate was My Contender's allegation on My Honored and Beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

But in his first argument there are several fallacies...

Fallacies of Contender:

Cherry picking (fallacy):

Defined as suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position.

He is picking those which suit him and ignoring the other side of the picture...

I would like to ask... [Con has to answer as we would share BOP]

1. Who are these people?

2. Are they Qualified Scholars? Thier Names even My contender does not knows their names..? Thier Beliefs? Are they actually Muslims or Just some Non Muslim Arabs Acting?

3. and Cut and Chopped 3 minutes clips can never qualify as a Contention! [The videos are from a Social Media(YouTube)-Unreliable Source]

Even if we considered [though I do not consider these as any evidence] any of these videos not a single is saying that "She was a Child" according to the definition of puberty..

The Videos says that she reached the Age of Puberty since Normally Girls reach the age of Puberty at the age of 8-12, and in Warm Countries the Age is Reduced.. even that is also True. [1] and that also proves that she was not a Child!

I would firstly like to give Scholars with Name and Thier Recognaiton who accept that the Age has been Misktaken..

Video-1 ( Javed Ahmad Ghamidi is a well-known Pakistani Islamic scholar, exegete, and Educationalist. A former member of the Jamaat-e-Islami, who extended the work of his tutor, Amin Ahsan Islahi)

Video-2 (Dr. Ammar Nakshawani)


Video-4 (Dr. Jamal Badawai)

Video-5 (Dr. Shahzas Saleem)

So Here we have many Scholars who agree with what I presented..

Con says:

The first is the most compelling, because this scholar states there are SEVEN, not one, but SEVEN, hadith, many narrated by Aisha herself, which state she was betrothed at the age of six, and that the marriage was consummated when she was 9. He also states that "weak Muslims" attempt to claim she was eighteen because they are afraid to confront Christians with the truth.


I think My contender fails to realized what I presented why we have to prefer other narrators over this particular one.. Yes There may be 7 Hadith but all are transmitted Through "A person who suffered Alzheimer's Badly and There is NO OTHER ONE WHO CLAIMS THAT Not Even His Own Students"

"A chain is only as strong as its weakest link"

We can not rely on This Chain and decide what Ayesha(R.A) said so we are obliged to explore the History ..

My arguments were 100% accurate according to "The Science of Hadith" consider the following defination

The Science of Hadith: A common historical method in Islam, hadith studies consist of a careful examination of the isnad(citations), or chain of transmission accompanying each hadith.The isnad is carefully scrutinized to see if the chain is possible (for example, making sure that all transmitters and transmittees were known to be alive and living in the same area at the time of transmission) and if the transmitters are reliable. The scholars reject as unreliable people reportedto have lied (at any point), as well as people reputed to be heedless (and thus likely to misunderstand the saying).[2]

My Contender have not refuted any of My Presented Argumentsand we have no Ground to Reject what I presented.. I'm Sure If This is Presented to "Those Unknown Unidentified Scholars" they would understand it and change thier views about Prohpet's Marraige..

Arguments Extended...

I wait for Con's Contentions.


My Contender can FF the debate by saying "Agreed" if He has nothing to say so It would save time of Many..

I Thank people for Reading This..



My opponents counter argument has two, HUGE holes in it.

1. Why did nobody directly challenge the age of marriage as reported in the Hadiths until the early 20th century?[1] (Islamic Source)

2. How could the compiler of these Hadiths be diagnosed with Alzheimer's, a deisease not discovered until more than one thousand years after his death?[2]



Debate Round No. 3


In the name of Allah, Most Gracious Most Merciful.


I Thank My Contendersfor his Try to Respond to My Arguments..

He has not presented any contention for my Previous Arguments and Ignored them I would Accept his silence as his agreement with the arguments presented by me..

"Truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear." -Mahathma Gandhi.

I would like to remove the Cobwebs of Ignorance which caused my contender to write his last Argument.

Con says: is His source (Islamic Source)

Rebuttal 1: is an Anti-Islamic website of Fake Islamists. (1)

Hence the Source is not reliable and not of any worth.
Con says:

Why did nobody directly challenge the age of marriage as reported in the Hadiths until the early 20th century?

Rebuttal 2:

It would not take Rocket-Science to answer my contender's Point.. Its better if you ask this Question to Those "Christian and Anti-Islamic Apologetics" who aroused a "False Propoganda" against Honored Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)now in 20th Century.

They should answer "Why No Body until20th Century did not raise an Objection about Prophet's Marriages?"

and They forgot What their Own Scriptures and Histroy says about "Historical examples of pedophilia, both personal and cultural."[sic] (2)

Since in 20th Century they tried to "Desecrate" My Honored Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Scholars had to see is it the right age? Since they found the source weak and we have many other reports and narrations so We have to Prefer them above this particular report. as I explained.
Con says:
How could the compiler of these Hadiths be diagnosed with Alzheimer's, a deisease not discovered until more than one thousand years after his death?[2]

Rebuttal 3:

1. The Book from which I extracted "When he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly" and it was not in english book and it does not says Alzheimer!

I apologize my use of word "Alzheimer" might have hurt my contender's intellect when I tried to make him understand with my commentary

The Orignal Source does not says "Alzheimer's" it says "Hisham's Memory Suffered Quite Badly"

Hence clarifies My Contender's Objection because "Memory Loss" has been for Ages..


According to The Science of Narrations of Hadith all the narratives of marriage of Ayesha by Hisham ibn 'Urwah cannot be held true when it is contradicted by many other reported narratives, there is absolutely no reason to accept his narrative true when other scholars of such High Eminence, including Malik ibn Anas, say his narrative while in Iraq, are unreliable.


2] Statement of Contender


Weiler forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4


In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful.

I said:

"My Contender can FF the debate by saying "Agreed" if He has nothing to say so It would save time of Many.."

- My contender have FF the Round.

- I answered all His claims

- My Arguments are Unrefuted.

-He can not produce New Arguments in Last Round since I will not be there to answer them.

as the Rules Go "No New Arguments in Last Round."

Arguments Extended Contender FF.


and say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish." -(Quran 17:81)


Weiler forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Weiler 3 years ago
Oops! Six Feet of Dirt ARE Upon Him........ Darn, there go my grammar points! ;)
Posted by king3opobn 3 years ago
Muhammad (Six Feet of Dirt is Upon Him)...........hahahahahaha
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Reasons for voting decision: I fail to see how referencing the mans actions in English, is a blasphemy. I'd probably have to abstain argument vote anyway due to bias... However conduct is clear due to the forfeit.