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mush16
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bennourse
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people with terminal illness should be allowed a legal arranged suicide

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/4/2010 Category: Health
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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mush16

Pro

so, you hear the word suicide and think... jeeze. if someone is told that they are suffering from a terminal illness ( http://en.wikipedia.org... ) they are told that "By definition, there is no cure or adequate treatment"
Obviously not all sufferers from terminal illness want to end their lives because as the above link states:
"Some terminally ill patients stop all debilitating treatments to reduce unwanted side effects. Others continue aggressive treatment in the hope of an unexpected success. Still others reject conventional medical treatment and pursue unproven treatments such as radical dietary modifications. Patients' choices about different treatments may change over time"
But what about those patients who want to take the choice to die how they want. They don't want to suffer anymore, and they want the help of physicians,family and friends to help them end their suffering in a comfortable and peaceful way.
I consider it cruel to keep someone alive who only feels pain, and if this involves the sanctity of life, that all life is holy and sacred, I don't feel that existing is living.
They need some compassion, because they are humans and as fellow beings they deserve to be treated in a humane way, and die with a little dignity.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
which states :"Human rights are "basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled."[2]. The doctrine of human rights aims to identify the necessary positive and negative prerequisites for a "universal" minimal standard of justice, tolerance & human dignity that can be considered a public moral imperative. "
It is their own dying body, they are responsible for it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk...
"more than 80 per cent of the public want physician-assisted suicide to be available to them as an option if they should find themselves in circumstances where their lives have become unbearable without hope of remedy. " which shows that although illegal, faced with this situation most of the public would also take the option to arrange the end of their pain.
I feel the law needs to change, to allow people who are experiencing such indescribable suffering, can receive an ounce of control over their deadly and debilitating illness.
bennourse

Con

firstly, i would like to say i am not personally against euthanasia i am actually pro. But i need to debate and this is a interesting topic.

I can agree with pro that it is a kind and benevolent act. It is a good thing.

However, isnt there alternatives to them actually dying? not all the time but the majority of the time there is?
Debate Round No. 1
mush16

Pro

it's good to practise the debating skills :) i might take a leaf out of your book and get into a debate but go opposite my actual beliefs :)

okay co yeah there are other options like further treatment, but the treatment if continued can have side-effects"Some terminally ill patients stop all debilitating treatments to reduce unwanted side effects" also as their illness is terminal, "By definition, there is no cure or adequate treatment" so if they continue the treatment, they are going to die anyway. The aim for them is to chose the way they die and not let the illness run the end of its course.
bennourse

Con

Well i cant argue back because firstly i am not religious and second i believe in it haha that was the only argument i had.

Well, one last point, that if they can live a relatively happy life on drugs and a pain free life on drugs then that is a good thing. i think the option of euthanasia should always be there as it is important for people to be able to use their free will to aid their own cicumstances and decisions.

thanks for the debate, exellent points raised.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by bennourse 7 years ago
bennourse
Tell me about it, have sone respect.
Posted by mush16 7 years ago
mush16
oh my lord i cannot believe how pathetic people are....
Posted by Mangani 7 years ago
Mangani
"O my God I can't stand to see you suffer any longer... let's call Dr. Kevorkian... but first, sign this paper Dad!"

LOL!
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
Con didn't make a case, agreeing with Pro and asking a question. Pro wins arguments.

Neither side made an attempt at proper spelling ad grammar, a tie.

The case against assisted suicide is that heirs will pressure disabled people in order to get the estate.
Posted by Nails 7 years ago
Nails
'Assisted suicide' can be as simple as handing a terminally ill patient a deadly pill to take at his discretion. In such cases it is suicide.

The worse half of this debate is actual Euthanasia where the suffering patientessentially says 'I want you to kill me' and the doctor kills him. I remember reading that something like 60% of euthanizations were administered without directly expressed consent when it was implemented in the Netherlands.
Posted by Mangani 7 years ago
Mangani
How is it suicide if someone else arranges it? If you are unable to kill yourself, and someone else "assists" you, they have, in fact, killed you- legal or not.
Posted by Sky_ace25 7 years ago
Sky_ace25
Ermm...interesting debate? lol
Posted by mush16 7 years ago
mush16
they need to arrange and assisted suicide with either physicians or family because the illness has weakened them to the extent of debilitation.
Posted by mush16 7 years ago
mush16
http://en.wikipedia.org... - a reference to the legal side of suicide.
Posted by Sky_ace25 7 years ago
Sky_ace25
But your resolution implies that it is a self-suicide that the patient arranges; it has nothing to do regarding assistance?
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