perception and its manipulation is ultimate power
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This is a fundamental believe of mine. I look forward to having it challenged.
The ability to not have your perception manipulated is a far superior power.
I do not find freedom from perception manipulation omnipotent because of it requires one to stop perceiving entirely. Everyday how an individual sees the world is being altered by what is happening to the individual that is perceiving it. Physical stature, the people in the individual's immediate environment, the food the individual eats all alter their perception of the world around them. With something so dynamic how can it not be manipulated? The only way to be free from this perception alteration is to completely isolate oneself. As a defense for having an individual's perception manipulated by possibly malicious forces is for the individual to manipulate their own perception.
I am a strong believer in the samurai philosophy that the worst way to kill an opponent is by his/her own blade. But I'm sorry that I must resort to turning your resolution into a paradox. It is in fact the ONLY way (believe me, I've tried desperately to find another way) in which to highlight its very fallacy.
In the realm of debating 'power' we must see that every offence has an available defence which MUST BE automatically more ultimately powerful than the offence if it is to cause the one it is defending to receive no damage whatsoever from the offence.
Thus IF, of all offensive powers, Manipulation of perception is ultimate power then AUTOMATICALLY the ONLY logical conclusion can be that an power which completely and utterly is able to deflect all that ultimate power MUST be the MOST ultimate power and thus automatically takes the claim.
Manipulation of power being ultimate immediately causes it to get nudged down to second place by the ability to never have one's perception manipulated.
Your round two attack was that the mechanism of this makes it near-impossible to achieve since by having perception one automatically is manipulated. But then this AGAIN is a paradox since if everyone's perception is manipulated, even the perception manipulator is having his own perception manipulated meaning that if his power is the ultimate one, he/she is automatically a victim to the most ultimate power and a self-destructive power is not the ultimate power since the more you use and rely on it the more ironic your use of it becomes considering that you, the entire time have been under the influence of power. This is like saying, if everyone is ageing all the time then the ability to make people age is the ultimate power. Well that is self-destructive and pointless since it is inevitably causing the user to become victimized by the ultimate power since he is always under it! How can such a power be deemed ultimate if deeming it ultimate makes the user the victim of ultimate power?
manipulation to be ultimate because its only defense that leaves the user functional is itself. By your logic that makes it ultimate.
If perception is 'termed' the ultimate power.
The ability to defend the ultimate power is by default the most powerful.
It's like saying something is the most powerful punch.
It is therefore to be the most powerful boxer if you were to take the hit and recieve next to nothing in terms of damage.
Chaotic_Cobalt forfeited this round.
Paradoxes always lose.
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